Board Thread:Lore Texts/@comment-31684825-20170601182826/@comment-29773086-20170602013403

LOTRMod wrote: I don't think Dorwinion Elves are too much of a stretch. The Hobbit does mention kinsfolk of the Wood-elves 'in the South', so at the very least, there were canonically other Elves living somewhere in the wider Dorwinion region. I think it's definitely one of the most sensible extrapolations we have made for the mod. (And from an outside perspective, the mixture of Elves and Men is unique among the factions, which makes for a more interesting playing experience.)

And they would be Avari, at least some. Some might also be Nandor or Silvan. 'Avari' isn't just the name of one specific 'faction' of Elves living in the Wild Wood, it's the name of a very wide group of Elves whose ancestors refused the Great Journey. And LOTR is set around ten thousand years later! In such an inconceivably long time, the Avari would definitely have spread across Eastern Middle-earth, and quite possibly even further. What I'm saying is that  'Avari' is  comparable in scope to e.g. 'Northmen' (which includes Dalish, Lake-men, Rohirrim, Beornings, Woodmen...)   rather than e.g. 'Galadhrim'.

But I think you should listen to what Thindithron is saying about your story. It does have a bit of a... stretchy feel to it, at least for our purposes. And this lore text board is not a place to submit anything that you write, it's about contributing to the mod, listening to feedback and criticism, with the aim of helping us gather as many texts as possible that fit into the mod as well as possible. I know they're quite plausible, Mevans. But this guy wants them having cities in the Second Age. As you said, 'stretchy'.

@Cundö: that was in the late Third Age, and in mod lore. It would the stretchiest of all to presume that the Avari were doing the same exact thing thousands of years before. They might not even have entered Dorwinion at that point.

Besides, as Mevans said, 'Avari' is a broad term. We are referring here specifically to the Eastern ones only. Those were separate from their cousins who met with their second cousins, the Elves of the Light, in the West of Middle-Earth.