Board Thread:Suggestions forum/@comment-26240225-20151120033708

I know, I know, I’ve spent a lot of time talking about improvements for the Orcs in Eriador and the West, but let's concentrate for our underpowered buddies in the North: Gundabad, The Might of the Mountains

As some of you may now, the Orcs of Gundabad were not some ragtag band of scavenging Yrch like their relatives to the south of them; no, they were strong descendants of the first Orcs of the Uvanimor of Melkor. When the War of Wrath was lost, these strong Uruks swepped in from the Everlasting Chill of Morgoth, south of the old fortress of Utumno to find a new stronghold. Low and Behold, they wrenched away Mount Gundabad from the armoured mittens of the Dwarves and claimed it as their own, forging great weapons and Armour from the Dwarven smithies within the mountain-stronghold. For True Yrch of Melkor weren’t mindless fools who wander into Eriador without orders. They were intelligent metalworkers who could devise great (but jagged) weapons, fabricated siege weapons, explosives, and even machines of torture and destruction (that's taken directly from the Hobbit book). Do you think a mindless bunch of scavenging orcs could take the Ancestral home of ALL  Dwarves away like candy from a baby? No! These are strong hardy Orcs from the North.

Around the Mount Gundabad waypoint should be a new sub biome: Gundabad Heath. A desolate clearing of dead trees, dark skies, brown rocks, and jagged brown mountains. And in the center would be the Mighty Mount Gundabad looming over, free for the player to build the giant tower above it. Here a new subfaction: Greater Gundabad  would be situated. The True Gundabad Orcs of Greater Gundabad would be taller than their Mordor, Angmar, Misty Mountain, and Dol Guldur relatives, but no taller than men. They would spawn with Rusted Ancient Orc Armour, or True Gundabad Orc Armour. Great Gundabad Wargs would also spawn, which are brown, white, or grey Wargs much bigger and fiercer than those in the south. They would not only do bite damage, but also charge damage from their immense size. Gundabad Snagae would also spawn: pale orcs the size of Hobbits which carry orcish bows and True Gundabad axes. But the newcomers would be the rare Snow Trolls, grand beasts that dwell in the land of Forodwaith, but ever so often descend down into the Heath were their fellow Uvanimor call home. These are no ordinary trolls, mind you, they are grand trolls evolved to be hardy to fathom the harsh weather in Forodwaith, and strong to fling a cavalryman over his own city walls.

However: There are units from Greater Gundabad that can only be hired from Great Gundabad Chieftains, or spawned in creative. These units I feel are necessary, but I deem to “OP” unless anyone objects and can give good parlay to juxtapose my postion.

Units only hireable:

<span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Great Gundabad Orc Warriors: Uruk Berserker sized Orcs which are armed in Angband Armour or Refined Gundabad Armour. No mix-and-match, just either or. (Cost: 45, Alignment: 350) Archer Variant: Cost: 50, Alignment: 400 (Warrior hp: 30--- Archer hp: 30)

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Great Gundabad Armoured Warg Warriors: Great Gundabad Orc Warriors Mounted on Armoured Great Gundabad Wargs. (Cost: 55 Alignment: 450) Archer Variant: Cost: 60 Alignment: 500

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">(Warg hp: 20-45)

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">These are the direct descendants of the Host of Angband, strong brutes found very rarely in the Third Age, as they were only used as Bodyguards in the Goblin Armies under the Mountains during the quests of the Dwarves and Bilbo Baggins.

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">True Gundabad Warriors, Snagae, and Snow Trolls can be hired by Great Gundabad Chieftains as well. True Gundabad Warriors would require 200 alignment and cost 20 coin (hp: 20), and Snow Trolls would require 600 alignment and cost 150 coin (hp: 95--dbl headed 120). Snaga, on the other hand, hold a different issue. Being so weak and disgusting, they would come in pairs when hired; but be quite useful. They can perform task such as mining and farming, but also die really quickly, considering their healthpoint sum of 15 (cost: 10 alignment: 100).

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">True Gundabad Banner Bearers can also be hired carrying the new subfaction banner for Greater Gundabad.

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">New Materials: Angband Steel: Crimson/Brass ingots or ores that can only be found in chests in Orc Holds (new Structures) or mined in the very far west of Forodwaith. Used for almost every recipe for the Great Gundabad Warriors.

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"> <span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Spikes: Accessories that can be added to helmets, chestplates, and leggings in a crafting table to give a sort of thorns affect to the armour. Spikes would appear in the front and or sides of a helmet (depending where you put the spikes around the helmet in a crafting table), on the shoulders and or front of a chestplate, and knees on leggings. There will be a 25% chance that Great Gundabad Warrior Orc could be hired with spikes on their armor, and the same goes for the Armor on a Great Gundabad Warg.

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Ancient Orc Steel: Mined from the Mountains in the Gundabad Heath that carries are dark black color, and used to craft the material of lesser orc equipment.

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">New Weapons: Great Gundabad Scimitar: Only Spawns with Great Gundabad Orcs, and is an uruk-looking scimitar but with the Angband steel color scheme, brown hilt, and rusty scheme. (damage: 7)

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Great Gundabad Spear: An Angband Steel variant of the Mordor Warscythe (Damage: 6.5)

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Great Gundabad Bow: An Angband steel variant of a Black Uruk Bow. (Damage 1 per arrow, draw speed: 25 range: 50)

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Great Gundabad Warhammer: A Generic Warhammer that looks almost like the Utumno one, except with the Angband steel color scheme (Damage 7.5)

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Great Gundabad Battleaxe: An Angband steel version of the Utumno Battleaxe (Damage: 7.5)

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Great Gundabad Dagger: A curved and jagged dagger with a brown hilt made from Angband Steel (Damage: 6)

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Great Gundabad Pike: Yes, I know it is a shame too use a reference from the movies, but the only thing I could think of for this Pike was the Pikes that the Gundabad Orcs use in the BOTFA. (Damage: 6.5,,,,,you have to admit, they are pretty cool looking!)

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Ancient Orc Sword: A sword for lesser Great Gundabad Orcs that look like a small Utumno sword (Damage: 5.5)

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Ancient Orc Spear: A hooked-blade spear with a black color for the blade, and brown for the pole (Damage: 5)

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">*Ancient Orc Bow: An Ancient version of the Black Uruk bow. a much smaller compound bow for Orcs

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">*Snaga don’t use this bow, they use the regular orc bow)

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Ancient Orc Mace: A skull staff-esque weapon with a wooden handle and a ancient orc steel top shaped crudely in the likeness of a skull.

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Ancient Orc Halberd: A long polearm with an Ancient Orc Steel axe at the end, and a spike on top

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Armour: Great Gundabad Orc Warrior Armour: Crimson/Brass/Copper/Angband steel color schemes are what this armour has, with a full mask as a helmet, with a blade going down the center, and the mask in the likeness of a skull with two crests protruding. The Chestplate is a full body suit of armour that looks like shells on top of shells of steel armor, almost like the plates on a gauntlet. The leggings have two skull plates on the knees, and the boots are curved up like the shoes of Easterlings. If found in an Orc Hold or dropped by a warrior whose armor was rusted, it is always rusted, but can be refined with an anvil and Angband steel for each armour piece

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Great Gundabad Warg Armour: Spiky armor that cover the Great Gundabad Warg and causes thorns damage to those who touch it. True Gundabad Wargs and warg riders never have this armour, just ragtag armour like their kin in eriador. Made of Angband steel or orc steel for the lesser orc variant.

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Ancient Orc Armour: A black suit of armor that looks savage and jagged as any orc smith would craft. Cannot be crafted, just found rusted in Orc Holds or Ancient Orc Dens (new structure). Can be refines with Angband Steel.

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">True Gundabad Orc Armour: Warg fur and orc steel combine to create a monstrous hulk of armour that wards off the arrows of the descendants of the Edain and of the Eldar.

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Ancient Dwarf Armour: This is the armour of the ancestors of Durin’s Folk during the second age

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">of Arda. It would be found rusted, but insert into an anvil with Dwarven Steel Ingots.

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">New Structure: Orc Hold: A fairly sized stronghold as big as a Mordor tower, with Angband Steel plates embedded in the wall along with the brown Gundabad stone. Inside the tower there are flights of stairs and levels, each holding a trove of oddments: be it Ancient Dwarven Armour or Mighty Great Gundabad Orc Warrior Armour. Maybe even some gold coins or valuable mountain stones…

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Ancient Orc Dens: Old Holes delved by Orcs in the mountains to store their hoards of treasures taken by them from Angband and stolen from the Dwarves.

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Great Gundabad Chieftain Hut: A crude orc hut with a thatched roof, very reminiscent of a small moredain hut… except orc version

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">New Blocks: Angband steel block: A block of angband steel that provides great protection from the warriors of the free peoples, and shelter from rogue orc bombs.

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Greater Gundabad Rock: dark brown stone that makes up the subbiome of Greater Gundabad

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Greater Gundabad Stone/ Stone Slabs/Stairs/Wall: the refined version of the rock made for building holds to plot the taking over of the North.

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Ancient Dwarf Blocks: The intricately carved remnants of the Dwarves in the mountains before the time of great conquests of the orcs. come cracked by default.

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Carved Greater Gundabad Stone: the dark brown refined stone has the crown of <span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Melkórë <span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"> carved into it: the new symbol for Greater Gundabad.

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Banner of Greater Gundabad: A dark brown banner with the Thangorodrim in the background, and the three Silmarillions embedded into the black helm of Morgoth in the foreground.

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Bee Hives: hives found all over middle earth that spawn bees and drop honey when broken.

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Block of Wax: made with nine honey and created to max wax torches and lamps.

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">New Mechanics: Rusting: The orcs of all dark realms are susceptible to Yavanna’s wrath: nature; and the elements that Kementari throws at them can take a toll on their armour and metal work. That is why over time only orc armor will rust and decrease its durability, but increase fear factor for enemies, making it less likely that you will be attacked by enemies (because rust is sp00ky). Rusting also can happen to blocks but it doesn’t effect them in any positive or negative ways, just an aesthetic change.

<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">And so the dark lieutenant of the forces of Dol Guldur takes his leave, letting those who read ponder and ponder. Feedback is <span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">requested <span style="font-size:16px;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;font-weight:400;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">. Thank you. If I have violated the FAQ in anyway, I apologize in advance. <ac_metadata title="The Might in the Mountain"> </ac_metadata>