Board Thread:Suggestions forum/@comment-29212138-20170526182111/@comment-26633547-20170527194017

High King Ithilion wrote: "The Men of Númenor were settled far and wide on the shores and seaward regions of the Great Lands, but for the most part they fell into evils and follies. Many became enamoured of the Darkness and the black arts; some were given over wholly to idleness and ease, and some fought among themselves, until they were conquered in their weakness by the wild men."

This is damning evidence against the Numenoreans in Far Harad tbh. Also note that that army was *led* by the Numenoreans, not made of them. Furthermore, those Numenoreans were the exiled lords of Umbar.

Ithilion, Discussions Moderator (Auta i lómë) 19:27, May 27, 2017 (UTC) This quote doesn't necessarily mean that all of the Numenorean colonists in Harad, or anywhere else, were conquered by wild men. This is the meaning of the word some, by the way. I don't want this to become an argument over linguistics but many > some, so I'd expect there to be a bunch of Men of N umenor   who fell into evil and follies, perhaps even became enamoured of the Darkness and the black arts, but they weren't given over wholly to idelness and ease etc etc.

 So do you see my point? This is a matter of interpretation.