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Dolgukhor wrote: um m8 Naru n,Aru is kings men in adunaic....

And it is 100% probable that some families survived gondors control of umbar (did some jews not survive in germany?)

The Kings Men rose them against numenor but now with force as is known that they have had good relations with the haradrim *Fuiner and that other dood* (After the enslaving period of Numenor)

The monument still stood though with the Kings Men but the corsairs knocked it down*When* they swore allgiance to *Sauron*

Im sure some Kings Men did not want to soil their blood with haradrim lineage like their counterparts int he faithful kingdoms Um m8 Naru n'Aru is real Adunaic, but a name made up by Arachir.

And of those few, is it not possible that during the 1000 years after that they merged?

Herumor and Fuinor were King's Men/Black Numenoreans during the Second Age.

No, because it was bilt during Gondor's occupation of Umbar.

It is explicitly stated that they quickly merged and degraded.

Your entire point is founded on the premises that:


 * Some Numenoreans decided to not wed Haradrim, something we are told they are willing to do


 * These Numenoreans survived the three invasions and occupations by a hostile nation, which spanned many years, and the invaders were not exactly friendly to their traitorous cousins.


 * They made the Haradrim retake Umbar and then ruled from the shadows, because we know the Haradrim contolled Umbar


 * They continued to not interbreed for another 1000 years, which we know they did not do


 * There were enough to maintain a breeding population and an army

If any of these do not happen, the whole idea vanishes. It's completely implausible that all these factors aligned to still have Numenoreans in Umbar by this point

Ithilion, Discussions Moderator (Auta i lome) 23:25, February 27, 2017 (UTC)