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89.228.74.171 wrote:

Kickratgames wrote:

WoodenBox wrote: Also at the Battle of Agincourt. The English had about 5000 longbows, each with say... 20 arrows, most bodkin. The French took, in total, about 1600 casualties. Say half of those were to arrows, as most of the fighting was hand to hand. So, 5000*20 is 100000 arrows fired. 100000 divided by 800 French deaths is 125 arrows fired for every dead Frenchman. Amazing, esp. because most were shot through the helmet gap too, and not through the armour. And remember, 800 dying to arrows is a conservative estimate skewed in your favor, kick. It could be much lower, as the majority died in the melee against the archers and men-at-arms. Here, again, in the melee we see what? Archers using the weight of numbers to pin French knights and stab them with knives repeatedly or using inpact weapons like mallets to negate their armour.

At your "germanic beserkers destroy anything"- no. just no. Beserkers were men who wore animal skins and got themselves realy pumped up before a battle. They were effective fighters because they wouldn't break or surrender, but no human can destroy plate with a knife, historical examples of which only weighed about 2 oz. (thats .06 kilograms for all you non Americans). Ahh, another non berserker believer. Berserkers wore animal skins yes. Did adrenaline give them their strength: No, not at all. The druids made special drugs (The ingredients are unknown) and berserkers then drank this before going to battle, but before this they had to choose an animal (Wolf, Bear, Boar, etc) and go into the woods for 2 years and live like said animal, this is simply a tradition and not needed.

The berserker drug did not give them strength, it gave them complete ignorance to pain. Not just wounds but ignorance to exertion. The problem of force is not the human's strength himself but the exertion it takes to put a lot of force into something.

If you still don't believe me here are qoutes that deny the theory of it just being adrenaline

"They were mindless, slavering beasts, their power coming from the potent drugs of their druids." Tacitus

"Neither fire nor iron can kill a berserker" Unknown

"Men had accounts of the berserkers turning purple whilst fighting." Augustas Caeser Give source and actual proofs, random quotes won't win you an argument. Adrenaline theory is as plausible as drugs if you can't deny it with proper facts (and I guarantee you can't). I would wish to point out a couple things to you: 1. all of those records are roman, and roman records are argueably the best, most accurate, and well preserved records there are.

2. if it's just adrenaline how come there are records of them turning purple, or them not dying by regualar things. We just don't know, it's possible it came from adrenaline, but it seems a lot more likely their power came from a drug of some sort. Have you expierianced fear so bad that you can't feel your limbs? it's highly likely this drug did something similiar but giving them complete ignorance to pain, exertion, and wearing out.

3. I will have a coule sites pointing out probable causes soon.