User blog comment:Catfishperson/LotrMod Political compass!/@comment-25101089-20170516165629

You know, unless I'm missing something, there is in fact an explicit basis in the lore for a ruined Utumno still inhabited by lingering monsters from the Elder Days, and no mention of it being 'utterly destroyed' as is commonly said in these parts.

"Nevertheless the Valar did not discover all the mighty vaults and caverns hidden with deceit far under the fortresses of Angband and Utumno. Many evil things still lingered there..." - Chapter 3 of The Silmarillion