Board Thread:Suggestions forum/@comment-25012056-20170409161449/@comment-25012056-20170411102607

Gandalfthegreatestwizard- EpicMithrandir wrote: Gen. Grievous1138 wrote: Gandalfthegreatestwizard- EpicMithrandir wrote: Gen. Grievous1138 wrote: Gandalfthegreatestwizard- EpicMithrandir wrote: Gen. Grievous1138 wrote: Gandalfthegreatestwizard- EpicMithrandir wrote: In Sindarin, then, the best translation I can come up with is: Delûannath for fell beasts, and of course Imlad is valley. Imlad Delûannath? = Fell Beasts Vale. My translation skills are sadly lacking... It almost sounds like a way point name, rather than the biome. Perhaps just 'Fell Vale'- Imlad Delu?

Nah. Again: while the more well-known features of ME are named in Sindarin, not all of them are. The Lone-Lands, the Shire, Swanfleet, Dead Marshes, Mountains of Mirkwood, Mirkwood, Blue Mountains, Red Mountains, Mordor Mountains, Misty Mountains, Gondor Mountains, Harad Mountains, Woodland Realm, Dale, and Wilderland are all used instead of their Sindarin variants, for example. The mod just uses whatever name is more well-known. And as any Sindarin name would be an invention on our part, as opposed to the name that is not only more widely known but has also been the name of the waypoint since the waypoint was added.

Gen. Grievous1138 (LOTR Mod Wiki Admin) comlink 10:02, April 10, 2017 (UTC) Interestingly, everything in Mordor has a Sindarin name. The Mordor Mountains should be divided into two ranges, both with Sindarin names. Practically no place name in Middle-Earth is what it is in English/Westron words. Practically every place name is what it is in Sindarin.

The names Ash Mountains and Mountains of Shadow (both of which I previously suggested) appear quite commonly in LOTR alongside their Sindarin counterparts.

That being said: the names the mod uses are the names that make the most sense, or are better-known. For example, while Gorgoroth and Udûn are used in Mordor, that's because they're the better-known names. It's the same way for the Misty Mountains and Mirkwood. Hithaeglir is a lesser-known term and a mouthful, and only the most diehard Tolkien fans know what the hell Taur-e-Ndaedelos means. It'd be the same way with the Fellbeast Vale - especially if we'd have to make our own Sindarin name for it.

Gen. Grievous1138 (LOTR Mod Wiki Admin) comlink 19:52, April 10, 2017 (UTC) The waypoint descriptions can easily help with understanding what it is and means.

It's still creating a name for something that already has one - and it's unnecessary. Fell-Beast Vale works well enough.

Gen. Grievous1138 (LOTR Mod Wiki Admin) comlink 22:05, April 10, 2017 (UTC) It already has a name? Obviously not a lore accurate one, and therefore invalid. Replace it with a better one!

The Vale of the Fell Beasts is what it is referenced to as in everything that references it, including the mod. And even though the vale itself is non-canon, the name makes it crystal clear what the biome is. Inventing a Sindarin name that's even more of a mouthful than the original is pointless. The original name is more widely known and it fits the biome. Those are the requirements for which name takes preference in the mod. Any Sindarin name would fulfill neither.

Gen. Grievous1138 (LOTR Mod Wiki Admin) comlink 10:26, April 11, 2017 (UTC)