Thread:LOTRMod/@comment-34126913-20171230050733/@comment-26172435-20171231045602

Sinthorion wrote: AlteOgre wrote: It would help if you would indicate what you define as a 'submod'. At Eras of Arda we now use the term sub-mod for the way we modified the LOTRmod for our Second Age Server and our first launch of the First Age Server. The submods we used there did not change or add any code to override LOTRmod code, but only added a new map, textures and text lines specific for our servers purpose. When you wish to create a mod that uses LOTRmod as a basis and overrides part of the code or adds sub-classes based on the LOTRmod classes, I recommend to use the term mod-mod instead of sub-mod. We do this for our current First Age Server. That doen't make much sense. The two terms are synonyms. submod refers to a modification of a modification, the same as what "mod-mod" means, no matter if the original source is modified and rebuilt or of the mod is modified with another mod at runtime. It's useful to have a distinction for these two cases, but I think your terms are just more confusing than clarifying.

I suggest the terms modified LOTR mod for what First Age has and LOTR dependant mod for other mods that use LOTR classes, as a more explicit distinction.

I am aware of that. Terminology doesn't have to make perfect sense to be effective. The term submod has been used for quite some time before people started to become aware of the possibilities to actually add/override code, and the prefix 'mod' has a better connotation of effectively being associated with 'modifying' than the prefix 'sub'. But it's all arbitrary. The distinction is however pretty relevant so I think we better make up our minds about it and start guiding people to use clear definitions. You could take the lead in this as you're better aware of the actual implications ... or a mod team member preferrably, as it is actually their problem not a wiki problem.

I understand the terms you propose, but the example you're using is incorrect. The present First Age Server mod is a LOTR dependant mod. We used to use a 'modified LOTR mod' until Valiec showed up and started to create a dedicated mod with new class files etc.

I actually hoped you would answer this in the announcement thread. This discussion does not belong in this request thread on Mevans' wall imo.