Board Thread:Suggestions forum/@comment-27170788-20160419032145/@comment-27170788-20160425211621

Calanon Evergreen wrote: Hello JayZ, I am happy to see that there is someone out there who still values good morals and ethics; this is a moral view I also share. And while this is a good cause you are trying to put forward, I think there is something you should consider.

The real world is predominantly neutral in ethics. The sad reality is, you can't go through life without seeing or hearing a single curse word, no matter how hard you try. For a common public place such as this (as well as in the mod), you can't impose those kinds of ethical standards. I'm not saying fling the doors wide open to cursing and swearing, but the reality is that cursing will always be around, and there's not much you can do to stop it, unless you forcefully censor any and all of it (which would not be fair in relation to freedom of speech). I definitely think there should be boundaries on what is appropriate and what's not, but to completely remove any and all curse words is very unrealistic, not only rights-wise (certain extent of freedom of speech), but also in a real world sense (as the real world isn't all clean language).

As for the alcohol, for example: it's common in The Hobbit (a children's book) for the Wood-elves to get drunk. The alcohol in the mod isn't exaclty the fault of society, but just an accurate representation of the lore.

Again, I share your views on not cursing, but it's unrealistic what you're putting forward. Would it be a good thing if bad language was omitted from the entire mod? Certainly. But the best thing you can do is hold true to your ethics, because for the most part, you just can't enforce that kind of ethical standard across the entire mod.

 Elvenking of the Woodland Realm  Unfortunately, you're right-- I can't change all of society. I was at least hoping the people on this mod might be a little more willing to be understanding and show respect to those of us who take offense at words like these. I certainly don't expect to go through life without hearing any curse words, but in spheres where I am capable of influencing things (or might be capable of influencing things) I at least feel obligated to try and help.

I've never objected to alcohol- for one thing, even the example of the Wood-elves getting drunk was a negative one. I don't believe alcohol is bad (though I personally don't wish to drink, even when I'm old enough), but I believe getting drunk is. And while one might argue that cursing is a negative example as well, my thought is that it's possible to either leave it as "he cursed" in narrative or to omit it entirely.

Unfortunately, that's the impression I'm getting too. People on here seem, for the most part, fairly unreceptive, and if most of what I'm going to receive on here is hate and people calling me intolerant, then I don't see much point in restating my opinion and reasoning again and again. I've said what I believe several times. Whether people listen to me or not is their choice. But I cannot say I have not spoken up. If I have spoken, and have done so in a calm, courteous, and respectful manner (as I believe I have), then I have done all I can do.

Thank you for your support- unfortunately it seems like you're one of the few people who actually agrees with me :/