Thread:The Second Age Server/@comment-174.21.218.165-20161226233732/@comment-26172435-20170111192644

188.238.111.222 wrote: Siegs here,the king of Mossgård. As Tinty said, Mossgård is a real faction that has been accepted as a custom faction on the server. It is supposed to represent Dale in the SA, and according to lore, many wars have been fought for Mossgård's lands. So please respect us.

I'm okay with Shiza being an uruk, but the lands of Mossgård belong to Mossgård, not him. I don't know if Alte agrees, but haven't the Uruk-Hai only been around for a little while as the city of Mossgård is over 1000 years old.

Thanks for understanding! This post is rather pointless as Shiza has transferred to Mordor a couple of days ago. I don't see the point in any more argueing on the status of Mossgard and their claim on Erebor. As discussed in-game, Mossgard can claim Erebor in-character as they please, but they'll have to respect the in-character fact that the area is inhabited by not-so-friendly factions of orcs and swarty men. This also implies that Mossgard players ooc will have to respect other players who try to establish a base for one of either in-game factions there (Lygorchoth - Isengard & Rúbaranrim - Dunlendings). Again: in-character claiming and expression of warlike threats is okay, but keep in mind that if a faction is only manned with one player, you must consider ooc aspects too and even pay some attention to ooc explanation of the ic situation. This hasn't happened during the issue Mossgard had with Shiza, and this resulted in miscommunication and ill feelings towards each other. Now Shiza has left the Lygorchoth that issue is resolved. Note that there are a number of new players who recently joined the Lygorchoth and they may intend to spend some time establishing a base of some kind before they are ready to engage in serious warfare rp. Note that these part of the common sense rule are especially applicable in such circumstances: "Don't do to others what you don't want others to do to you." and "Maintain a fair play attitude and guard a reasonably level playing field out of respect to other players gameplay experience.".