Board Thread:Suggestions forum/@comment-29212138-20170526182111/@comment-26149161-20170527022820

Dolgukhor wrote: The third speaks of the evil men of the south.

Yet they both specify that Black Numenoreans resided in the south and fought each other for power.

What great pains? U showed me two quotes one saying they mingled with haradrim, and Dwindled

the other speaking of the corsairs of umbar.

And yet Umbar is the most possible place the Mouth would have been from as it was the only haven of the King's Men that was mentioned. It talks about the Haradrim. That's who it's referring to.

The second quote goes on to talk about how the Numenoreans were defeated by Wild Men, and is assumed to be referring to the same colonies as the first.

Yes, which Tolkien always pointed out whenever the Numenoreans were talked about in Umbar. If there were some still there, he would have said so, or not gone to such lengths to talk about the dwindling.

Not sure what you mean here.

We don't know where the Mouth came from, again. However, there are several references to horsemen inside Mordor, and, besides the Slaves, they are the only Men mentioned inside Mordor at any point. Those seem likely to by the Numenoreans, still dwelling inside the Black Land. We can be sure, again, that he wasn't from Umbar, as the Castamiri merged, and it's been two thousand years since the last seen Black Numenorean.

Ithilion, Discussions Moderator (Auta i lómë) 02:28, May 27, 2017 (UTC)

Ithilion, Discussions Moderator (Auta i lómë) 02:28, May 27, 2017 (UTC)