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Wow, High King Ithilion.

Have you not read any lore or what? its like you got all lore from twisted tales you heard from others that did not really know what they were talking about. :/

As a Tolkien Linguist and Tolkien Study of many years, let me set you all right.

First off:

The High Elves were ANY elves that had either lived in Valinor or were descended from one that did. This means that Elrond was a High Elf from his father's side. Elrond's father's mother was Idril, daughter of Turgon. They lived in Valinor before they came back to Middle-Earth, and since Elrond is a descendant of them, he too, is a high elf, even though he had never lived there himself.

The High Elves of Lindon are all of Noldorin (2nd kindred) descent in lore, since no other high elven race of Valinor came back to live in middle-earth (although some of them had some Vanyarin or Falmarin blood in them, since the Noldor did some times get children with the other races of elves in Valinor while they still lived there (this expalins wierd hair and eye color in some Noldorin elves)).

The Eldar was the name of all those elves that had started the great journey from Cuiviénen towards Valinor, even if they did break away and ever finished it.

The Vanyarin elves in Valinor were of the first kindred.

The Teleri was the name of all the Eldar of the 3rd kindred of the great journey.

The Falmari elves of Valinor were of the 3rd kindred, same as the Sindar and Falathrim and Silvan elves. Thus distantly related.

The Sindar elves, the grey elves, were a race of Telerin descent, thus of the 3rd Kindred. The Sindar were all dark elves (except their first king), not one of them was a High elf, because not one of them had ever lived in Valinor. But, their first king was in fact a light elf, because he had seen the light of the two trees of Valinor, but he was no high elf, as he had never lived in Valinor, only visited. The Sindar were first ruled by their first King Elu Thingol and his wife Melian the Maia. Through them, that race became much more wise and enlightened than any other Telerin race of Middle-Earth. Thus they were more wise than normal dark elves, but they were still not light elves, thus they were also called the twillight elves.

The Falathrim, or shore elves, were only a sub-group of the Sindar, not a race of their own.

The Laiquendi, the green elves, were of the 3rd kindred, they were Silvan elves that came to Beleriand after hearing of the might and wisdom of King Thingol of the Sindar. They stayed in the eastern part of beleriand, and when it sank, the survivors of that race stayed in what later became known as Lindon.

The Silvan elves, meaning Wood elves, were also of the 3rd kindred. They lived in Mirkwood and Lórien.

The word Calaquendi, meaning light elves, refered to all elves who had actually seen the light of Valinor. Thus it is not the same as High Elf. Elrond is a High elf, but NOT a light elf, as he has not seen the light himself, but his ancestors did. Galadriel on the other hand, is a Light elf, as she has actually seen the light of Valinor.

The word Moriquendi, meaning dark elves, refers to all elves who had NOT seen the light of Valinor. So technically, Elrond is a dark elf, and a high elf.

As for the Elves of Lindon; The elves of Lindon were a mix of elven races. Lindon, as you all should know was the only remaining part of Beleriand after it sunk. Here, the Noldor made their home. But not only the Noldor made this their home, alot of Sindarin elves also lived here. And presumably the survivors of the Laiquendi did too, before they migrated back to Lórien, as is told in lore. Alot of the Sindar, but not all, moved to other parts of Middle-earth, as many of them hated the Noldor. The Noldor mostly stayed around the Lindon area. Presumably all Falathrim elves stayed in Lindon, close to their beloved shore. A Sindarin Lord named Amdír went to Lórien and became their king, while another Sindarin Lord, Oropher went to Mirkwood and became their king.

Later in Second Age 750, Galadriel and her Sindarin husband Celeborn founded Ost-in-Edhil in Eregion. It was a Noldo and Sinda city, later it was ruled by Celebrimbor, a Noldo.

in Second Age 1697, Eregion was ruined by Sauron, the survivors, led by Elrond, founded the hidden city of Rivendell as a refuge for the survivors. The Noldor and Sindar that survived either went to Lórien or Rivendell, thus boosting the Noldorian population in Lórien somewhat.

I hope this helped :D