Board Thread:Suggestions forum/@comment-33185350-20171123170105

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What Is This?
This suggestion is aimed to make the process of hunting more of a challenge for the average player. Right now it’s all too easy to just walk up to a deer in the wilderness and bludgeon it with a warhammer. Real deer are actually smart, and stay away (unless you’re in a National Park, but you might get in trouble for bludgeoning deer with a warhammer there). It’s also just plain disappointing after the excitement of spotting your first white stag to kill it and find you get no trophy. I am proposing several changes to hunting to make it more realistic and enjoyable.

This is my second suggestion regarding making the vast wild lands of Middle-Earth more realistic, the first can be found here.

Inspiration
While most of these ideas come from real life and my experience in game, this suggestion is partially inspired by this thread.

The idea for fallen leaves (mentioned below) is inspired by S’moregoth’s comment in this thread.

The rabbit mechanics in this thread by S’moregoth would go nicely with this idea. The addition of rabbits fleeing would make hunting food in the wild much more difficult.

The hunting knife brought up in this thread by CreeperKid354 and further discussed would also make this more interesting.

Fleeing
Game animals throughout Middle-earth will flee from players and NPCs. The most important animals for this change are deer and elk. They will naturally stay away from the player, having a high chance of fleeing every time the player comes within a certain distance. This distance should be really annoyingly far, but close enough that they actually are loaded in the world. If the player sneaks, they will be able to get closer before the animals flee. It They will have a chance of being able to get right up to the animals if they are very careful.

It would be best if the animals only flee when they see the player, in the same way evil NPCs see the player. Or, perhaps the distance that they choose to flee depends on whether the biome (or biome variant) is forested or not.

The distances that they choose to flee from are not set in stone depending on the biome or vision. Rather as players approach within a certain distance (or once they become visible to the quarry) the quarry has a high chance of fleeing, and that chance increases as the player gets closer. If one animal flees animals nearby will panic and flee as well.

Ranger Armour will let players get much closer to their quarry without it seeing them. This makes it a little more useful than it is now. Galadhrim cloaks also have this effect.

It would be good if stepping on fallen leaves would make a loud noise and scare away any quarry within a large radius even if you are sneaking.

If the player has very high Woodland Realm alignment (say 100, which is the amount required to trust you plus the amount required to ride a warg, or maybe 200 if it needs to be difficult), the elk will no longer flee unless they or a nearby elk is attacked. This will still allow for players who want to tame and ride elk.

Offering deer wheat will still lure them, but it will be more difficult. They will most likely scare if the player isn’t sneaking, and if one scares they all will. Once a deer has been fed wheat once, however, it will become ‘tame’. Not tame as in following the player around, but tame as in coming instantly and thoughtlessly accepting any food from the player. Deer bred by players should also be less skittish in this manner.

Deer
The current deer mob in the game is not really up to the mod’s standards as far as mobs go (at least that is my opinion). I suggest a new model for deer that looks more athletic. They would stay about the same size, but they would become slimmer and have thinner legs. I personally like the look of mule deer or whitetail deer, and think this sort of animal would be a good way to go, but to be more lore accurate an old world deer like the fallow deer would probably be better. Deer just need a more graceful model. Fallow deer could make for a good model, though it appears they can still get chubby (see the white deer picture).





It should be noted that fallow deer have a white color variant, so these should be an extremely uncommon variant in the game.



Elk
The elk in the game have a pretty cool model. The problem is that the elk in the game don’t look anything like elk. I recommend remodeling them to have a model based off of elk, or more accurately the Old World Red Deer.





Never fear, red deer also have a white variant in real life so we won’t loose the occasional white stag in Mirkwood.



In addition to this remodel, elk will no longer be present in the Northlands. They can still be found in the Northern Forests, but less common. They will also be added to forested biomes like the Grey and Misty Mountains Foothills, and perhaps the Vales of Anduin and Anduin Hills. Wilderland, Northern Wilderland, Dale, Erebor, Ettenmoors, Coldfells, and the Iron Hills are also good candidates.

But what happens to the elk models already in game?

Reindeer
Caribou, or Reindeer as they are known in the Old World (the same animal), would be a good use for the current elk model. It would need a little retexturing and possibly tweaking, but it already strongly resembles a reindeer. There will be a few different skins, some a little lighter and some a little darker but mostly the same.





Reindeer will be abundant in the Northern Forests and the Northlands. They will also occasionally spawn in Forodwaith. They spawn mostly in large groups.

Interestingly enough, reindeer can also be white! A rare white variant will exist in game for these animals as well.



If we want other hunting animals
While unnecessary, it might be fun to add the moose as another mob. They would be in northern mountain foothill biomes, Northern Wilderland, and the Northern Forests, but they would only spawn near large bodies of water. They would also spawn in swamps like the Long Marshes and the Gladden Fields. They would not, however, spawn in western biomes like Eriador or Midgewater, or south of the Misty Mountains. They would be fairly rare.



As bizarre as it is, there is actually such a thing as a white moose.



I think this is just strange, and don’t think it would really be worth adding a white variant for moose if they were added to the game at all. Keep in mind the whole idea of adding a moose is not pivotal to this suggestion, but just a fun idea.

Trophies
Now that we have established changes to the various animals, I would like to discuss the addition of hunting trophies. Following in the style of warg rugs, I would like to add trophies that drop from animals when hunted. Deer, elk, caribou, and (if added) moose would all drop their heads occasionally when killed. These heads would be an exact copy of the animal model’s head, and would have the same antlers (or lack thereof) and coloration as the animal killed. When placed on a wall, the head would be an entity taking up one block of space. If the antlers are bigger than this size (such as with reindeer) they are visible but ignored by the game, in much the same manner as the Table of Command. The heads should have a small chance of dropping, but much larger than warg rugs. About one in twenty is probably a good chance.

If the hunting knife is added as discussed in the thread linked above, it would increase the chance of getting a trophy to something around 90%. This would still be difficult because the player would have to carefully sneak up close enough to animals.

The purpose of these trophies would be none other than decoration for builds and showing off one’s hunting prowess. Players will not be able to wear them as with other heads.

Bears should also either drop their heads or (preferably) bear rugs, in the same manner as Wargskin rugs, but more commonly.

Far Harad animals such as lions, zebras, etc. will also drop their heads as trophies.

Conclusion
I think this would be a fun feature to add to the game, and would make hunting roleplay more interesting. Factions like Rangers of the North especially would benefit from this feature.

I am open to any comments or constructive criticism. Please let me know what you think!

 