Talk:What not to Suggest/@comment-170.158.82.102-20160218223650/@comment-26347028-20160220105948

Utumno is something I'm against as it is in the mod. Down in its depths, some thing would certainly have survived. But nowhere near as much as is depicted in the mod. It was cleaved open, and left there. Surely the marks would be left on the surrounding environment, as well as it not needing to be another dimension - you could just make it a large structure, which I'm hoping it will be made into in future. Maria at the time of the mod was inhabited by Gundabad orcs, led by a balrog. Thus, while in my mind Utumno should be smaller, Utumno has a reason for existing and Dwarves in Moria do not.