Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-25973561-20150314083225/@comment-25447489-20150317030320

Argali1 wrote: ''Snaper6010 wrote:  Argali1 wrote:  Gen. Grievous1138 wrote: I think that Putin will turn up. Or maybe he disappeared overnight, like Joseph Stalin. I really hope that Hillary Clinton does not win. I also hope that a Republican does not take office, because their Keystone XL pipeline is gonna help Canada, Mexico, and some rich guys and destroy our environment even more. Blockheaded idiots.'Gen. Grievous1138 (admin) comlink 10:35, March 14, 2015 (UTC) ''I can tell you are left wing like me, so, why do you not like Hillary Clinton? She is smart, but more importantly she does not take crap from republicans. Think about it. But she's going to give lots of money to Iran to develop nuclear weapons, obliterating the united states, and also, gun control:'If you outlaw guns, only the outlaws will HAVE guns.it's better to gun the outlaws than to outlaw the guns.''

''If you care SO MUCH about the enviroment, move to Brazil and live in a rainforest. sure, I love trees, which is why I live in San Diego.''

P.S. In the future, please refrain from calling us "blockheaded idiots". I do not just wan't to protect the enviroment beacuse I think trees look nice. I wan't to protect the enviroment beacuse destroying it will lead to the Earth being toxic to most life forms, including humans! Some of you think that arming everyday people with guns is a good idea. If you just outlaw guns in general than none of this would be a problem. I know you are thinking that outlaws will still manage to get their hands on guns. That might happen, but, not as much. Just look at the Scandinavian countries, It's working out pretty damn well for them.


 * 1) 1 The Second amendment says we have the right to bear arms.


 * 1) 2The rate for intentional homicide in the UK in 1996—the year of the Dunblane Massacre(before gun control in UK)—was 1.12 per 100,000. It was 1.24 in 1997, when the Firearms Act went into effect, and 1.43 in 1998. The rate rose to a peak of 2.1 in 2002 and has fallen since to 1.23 as of 2010. These numbers have, however, been called into question due to possible under-reporting of violent crimes in the UK.

It cannot be denied that the rate of homicides via guns has fallen dramatically since Dunblane, but the rate of murders has gone up.

“Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.”


 * 1) 3 it DIDN'T WORK for Germany

Seventeen-year-old Timothy Kretschmer began at Albertville-Realschule, where he murdered 12 people, most of them women, then carjacked Igor Wolf and forced him to drive Kretschmer to the town of Wendlingen. While in the backseat, Kretschmer reloaded his magazines and answered Wolf’s question of why he had done it. “For fun. Because it’s fun.” He ordered Wolf off the road near a car dealership and ran inside, murdered two more people, and then shot it out with the police, wounding two and being wounded in both legs. He opened fire on every random person he could see, then shot himself.He killed 15 and wounded nine, all with a single 9mm pistol. This was his father’s gun, since he was too young to own one, and it was the only gun his father had not locked in a safe. He had illegally kept it out and loaded in case of burglary. This is not illegal in the US. Here, we see that a child, who should not have been able to acquire a gun, did so in a nation with extremely strict laws on gun control.


 * 1) 4 Gun control equals absolute despotism

They arm themselves for the possibility of government agents taking away their rights one by one until they live in a police state in which the government is able to do anything it wants because the civilian populace is unarmed and cannot resist. In these terms, any gun control is viewed as a threat to liberty, and though the Constitution guarantees rights, it does not enforce anything. Guns do.

We’ve all heard this one many times, but a point of contention that just won’t go away must be quite convincing to some. Gun laws are all founded on the principle of making a nation safer by limiting its civilian population’s access to guns, but laws against murder and violence do not apply to those who have given up on life and intend to die while killing as many people as they can. Laws against theft do not apply to a person who intends to steal something. The sole thing the criminally-minded care about is not getting caught. Some are reformed in prison, but in large part, those who want to break a law are not going to feel remorse when they are caught. Give them a chance and they will do it again.From this perspective, it is difficult to fathom the logic of enacting newer, stricter gun laws on an already lawful society. Most of us obey such laws. Sale of guns is forbidden within the city limits of Chicago, an ordinance that went into effect in 2010. For the year 2013, the city’s murder count is 374. There were 432 in 2010 and 500 in 2012. The FBI has named Chicago the nation’s murder capital. Thus, the city ordinance did nothing to reduce its murder rate.None of this is to imply that in areas of well-armed civilians, the violent crime rate must go down. That is not true. The highest crime rates in 2012 were in the South, where gun ownership is at its highest. But this fact as well corroborates that any imposition of gun control does not address the issue of gun-related crime.
 * 1) 5 laws DO NOT apply to criminals

Sure, I just copied and pasted this, but It makes TOTAL SENSE!!! Give me a good arguement.