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Elestan Larcalaite wrote: Varan sends a secret letter to Umayr:

Dear Umayr,

''I think that we have a similar perspective about life and rule and I think that we should make a new empire, one that isn't based on war and hate of the North, one that would be more culturally and technically advanced than any other, one that would give free rights to all of the inhabitants, save a few rulers (us) that will the empire and all of the laws would be voted on by the inhabitants. We can plan this together and make Harad a new land, a land full of happiness and freedom. We have the power to remake Harad.''

Signed: Yours sincerely, Varan Lord of the Jungle

Also, in Near Harad the Empire of Hrad still exists. I suppose Varan and Umayr's nations are not directly associated with them.