Board Thread:Suggestions forum/@comment-35657034-20190430190146/@comment-34030170-20191028101026

PumpkinLOTR wrote: VirgilTracey314258 wrote: Well, according to lore the elves could make doors like the current Dwarven Door, as the western gate of Moria was Elven. So Rittmeister, that post is wrong, and lore doesn't say anyone could make a door. And OneBehindTheHair is right, this is a small feature, but also the orcs did, and if they do a stone door and Elven, Dwarven and Orc door revision/add/thing, I say this would not include a non canon page edit. The west gate of Moria was not Elven. There is no evidence that any hidden doors were made from elvish crafts save by skill in the manipulation of stone; a hidden door may be made by cleverly disguising it's shape against the shape of a stone wall. The west gate of Moria's makers inscribed on the door: "Im Narvi hain echant. Celebrimbor o Eregion teithant i thiw hin" ; "I, Narvin made them. Celebrimbor of Hollin drew these signs" them being the Doors. Although Celebrimbor may have drawn the inscriptions and artwork that was set upon the Doors of Durin, Narvi created the doors themselves. And Narvi was a dwarf, of Durin's Folk almost certainly. As far as I can tell, it is canon that only the Dwarves dealt with such doors of stone as the Western Gate. As far as the lore of Middle-Earth tells us, the elves had no such doors.

EDIT: Did some reading in the Silmarillion. The greatest underground halls of the Noldor (who dealt with stone more than the other elf kindreds were inclined to) was Nargothrond, which was actually in part of dwarvish make. Nonetheless the doors of Nargothrond were regular doors; stone definitely, but they were definitely not hidden, unless by their location of being alongside a steep and hard-to-spot gorge in the river Narog. It doesn't seem (to me and my short researching, anyway) in lore that the magnificent hidden doors alike to the West Gate of Moria appeared anywhere else in Middle-Earth, let alone in the homes of the Elves.

 @Pumpkinator   ​ Like I said, the Orcs had very similar doors.