Board Thread:General Mod Discussion/@comment-47.41.55.73-20200126012758/@comment-69.242.54.218-20200206134918

BraveSold!3r wrote: 69.242.54.218 wrote: Ghuls are near undead creatures, so it doesn't make a lot of sense for them to exist in Mordor in the lore.

Graugs aren't quite as offensive, but I'd still say they should probably be left out. It's possibly some kind of ape/elephant like creature could exist in Mordor (or more likely Nurn), but I'm not sure.

Caragors are the only creatures I think are 100% lore friendly, and they should probably exist in Nurn, but these Caragors shouldn't be like the ones in SoM. They should be more like large black lions, as the developers mentioned that Caragors are to lions what Wargs are to wolves. And in the real world, until the last few centuries, lions were very widespread across the planet. What are you talking about. Just because wargs look like wolves does not mean that their has to be a cat like creature in Mordor to. Also Graugs defenitly dont make sense since they would have definitly been used by Sauron powerful as they are (or killed.)

If they add any creatures to mordor it should be the fellbeasts and greatbeasts (the ones that pulled grond) I never said there had to be "cat-like" creatures in Mordor. I only said that Caragors are based on real world animals, and thus would make sense to exist (obviously not in the same form as SoM, probably more lion-like).

Lions aren't exclusive to Africa, they used to exist in Europe and Asia before the rise of the modern world. And Middle Earth is intended to be Earth in the past.

I also agree that Great Beasts should be added, but they're just as non-canon as Caragors are. And the excuse that Harad wasn't "fleshed out" in the lore doesn't work, because neither was Mordor.