Board Thread:Suggestions forum/@comment-33009418-20170922084807/@comment-33009418-20170923215921

MrHobit1234 wrote: Swordsbane wrote:

High King Ithilion wrote: Yeppers. Denethor's lords are completely loyal. With Mordor knocking at the doorstep, there's no  real disloyalty in Gondor, since it's sink or swim together.

Also, "as suggestion writer you are charged with the defence of your ideas. Where are Gondor's arguments?" Please don't ignore a discussion about a part of your suggestion.

Ithilion, Discussions Moderator (Auta i lómë) 1 - 17 years beforehand...

2 - this is the first time I've been on after my last comments. That is nothing in the terms of Gondor a nation that has lasted for over 3,000 years. Gondor has been conitnuously raided from Umbar since the death of Telumehtar Umbardacil, it's eastern borders have been raided, and it's hold in Ithilien is nearly destroyed. Amon Amarth burst into flame just 54 years ago signaling the return of the nameless enemy. One of their greatest captains since the days of Boromir I had left 21 years prior, after achieving a great victory. Gondor is surrounded on all sides by enemies, save Rohan. Gondor is the bulwark of the west, and even it has no hope. The lords of Gondor under no circumstances would revolt, even if they did Denethor would have them swiftly exectuted for treason. Your arguement is completely and utterly illogical, it has no basis or place here. Fine! No chance, then.