Board Thread:Suggestions forum/@comment-29212138-20170526182111/@comment-26149161-20170527201903

Dragonovith wrote:

High King Ithilion wrote:

Dragonovith wrote:

High King Ithilion wrote: There's no info on them, but, based on the context of Faramir's speech, they are no longer around.

Ithilion, Discussions Moderator (Auta i lómë) 19:51, May 27, 2017 (UTC) How did Faramir acquire that information? Most likely Gondorian lore.

Tolkien often used phrasing like that. The line about being conquered is meant to refer to them all. Why wouldn't they be conquered, living in a hostile land far to the south?

Ithilion, Discussions Moderator (Auta i lómë) 19:58, May 27, 2017 (UTC) Considering the mod lore and that information spread in a "medieval" world is unreliable, I imagine that some colonies were overrun by the Moredain, but those colonies further south, near the jungles, could've survived. I assume that any Gondorian scholar would conclude that, if those nearby colonies were conquered, those others far to the south could've been too.

This is the lore tag of the westernmost Tauredain city: "Near the western edge of the jungles of Harad stands this ancient trader-town, where the old empire grew mighty out of trade with the Númenóreans."

This implies that the Númenóreans and the Tauredain were in good terms, and considering that the Empire fell, the Tauredain were in no shape for waging war against the Númenóreans, which were technologically more advanced than then. Of all things, they are much more likely to be allies than enemies. I would disagree with that. The Black Numenoreans were vicious in extracting tribute. After the fall of Numenor and the cataclysmic events that sunk much of Harad, I highly doubt the remaining Numenoreans would be spared the wrath of the oppressed people.

I would say that perhaps a single, somewhat mixed, community should be found in Haradm along with the ruins of other communities. This group wouldn't have enough strength to fight any wars, but still exist. I would sugest the Mountains of Harad as a location for a small stronghold of that race.

Ithilion, Discussions Moderator (Auta i lómë) 20:19, May 27, 2017 (UTC)