Board Thread:Suggestions forum/@comment-28153737-20160703202615/@comment-26127220-20160710132708

If orcs have arms like the apes of the south, it doesn't fit for them to be the size of Half-Trolls, unless orcs have been very differently mutated than we have envisioned all this time.

The idea of adding them is great, and I am sure Karseius will jump right on board with this, so I will show it to him. But using Wild Apes as cavalry is ludicrous. 1) They can't really hold on to them 2) My previous statement would indicate them being of a smaller size than you thought of. 3) The build of a monkey/ape is not strong enough to carry a human in gear on their back over planes or jungle. They'd most likely break their back after a while. They simply aren't build to be mounts. 4) There is no way they are capable of understanding commands. Sure the Trolls aren't the most intelligent either, but they can understand their language. I doubt a player or Tauredain can gibber "Yo attack those Black guys" at them.

I would like them as wild animals, but I would rather have them Hobbit sized and just to spice up the wildlife of the south a bit more in the jungles. But that is about it, since they can't climb or swing through the trees it would be a relatively goofy mob to see, since you would expect them to do something special.