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Gandalfthegreatestwizard- EpicMithrandir wrote: Solelfar wrote: Awesome suggestion! Finally, someone who understands Tolkien! :D

And Gandalf, yes, most of Tolkien scholars agree on the fact that Tolkien stigmatized industrialition and all of the problems it induced. Some might call him a reactionary, but the fact is that he merely affectioned nature; he spent most of his childhood in the countryside in Sarehole.

Nature always wins in the Lord of the Rings, whereas the great industrial powers, Mordor and Isengard, end up being destroyed by nature - ents, eagles, collapsing floor, and the kingdoms of men, which are part of nature. Collapsing floor? Eagles? Men? Mordor was destroyed by Hobbits, both Frodo and Sam, and Gollum who finished the deed. The collapsing floor thing happened in the movies. The Eagles and Men were really powerless to defeat Sauron, all they did was keep the attention of the Eye (which probably would have not watched its own land after his servants' defeat at the Pelennor).

Any scholar might agree on anything, but that doesn't change the fact that there is no definitive proof of Mordor being based on industrilization. All this suggestion can have is theories, which is unfortunately exactly what a large number of people want, and what the admins want to endorse. If we want this game to be anything like what Tolkien intended, we need theories. It's either theories or nothing.