User blog comment:Ronshol The Black/Who won the Second Presidential Debate?/@comment-26486187-20161012002539/@comment-25012056-20161014224117

If you think America has ever been socialist, you are still mistaken... tell me, when have American workers had control over the means of production and the profits of their products? The only president who had socialist beliefs (few of which were put into action) was so beloved terms limits had to be set in place.

And anyways, socialism failed in all of your examples that actually experienced socialism because all the power was put in the hands of one person to distribute, and in not doing so in every one of your examples they failed to truly be socialist. Don't get me wrong, I don't believe in complete and utter socialism - I believe in a form called Democratic Socialism, which is taking aspects of socialism (socialized education, increased welfare, etc) and mixing it with a largely capitalist system.

Gen. Grievous1138 (LOTR Mod Wiki Admin) comlink 22:41, October 14, 2016 (UTC)