Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-25376906-20181001161243/@comment-36922686-20181031203551

Here's what you also said:

"Now, after many updates, there are many, many blocks, and many, many monsters, as well as boss fights and goals, but I think they all move the point further away from simply being a sandbox game."

"I think a pretty good argument can be made that the continually increasing number of additions and changes have made Minecraft lose some of the magic it once had."

"Now, instead of having everything close to arms reach, you are required to travel thousands of blocks to find certain blocks and objects - in some cases, you even have to restart your world after updates if you want to find this stuff."

So yes, you were implying pretty heavily that what you don't like about the new updates is that they are adding more stuff.

"Of course the LotR Mod adds stuff!"

You completely missed the point of my argument. I was saying that the reasons you gave for not liking vanilla updates could be applied to LotR updates.

"Now, after many updates, there are many, many blocks, and many, many monsters, as well as boss fights and goals, but I think they all move the point further away from simply being a sandbox game."

All these things are optional. You don't need to fight the Ender Dragon, you don't need to get advancements. You can choose wether you do that or not! You don't have to fight the "many, many monsters". How is it moving further and further away from being a sandbox game if they are just adding more options to play around with?!!

Some people like combat, so fight the Ender Dragon! Not into that stuff? Build some buildings! Still not interested?? Play survival by you're own rules! Still not enough? Theire are so many servers that add additional games and action to the game and you can play them. Build you're own redstone contraption! Make a story just from Minecraft. Do whatever you want! This game is literally limitless. It's the perfect Sandbox game, and all these updates add more options to make a better expierience for a sandbox game!

"As far as missing chunks go, it makes perfect sense that the LotR Mod changes the map! It is quite reasonable for Mevans to update the map, to improve the mod to the standard he wants."

So it's reasonable for Mevans to add new stuff that requires restarting the world, but when Mojang does it, it's a sin? Wtf? U make literally no sense! I'm not even sure I can take you seriously any more! If you draw inspiration from somebody, you don't need to give due credit. Even if they did, the people who made those mods can't do anything about it. They don't make money, their mods don't benefit them at all. To say Mojang needs to give credit is dumb and untrue. Wut?? So 1.12 was better than 1.13, 1.10 was better than 1.11, and 1.6 was better than 1.7??? Are you kidding me?!! They aren't getting better and better, I'll give you that, but they sure as hell aren't getting worse! I'm really confused at what ur getting at here. Different things are useful for different purposes. It's inevitable that computers are going to have a harder time running newer versions of Minecraft, because as more things get added in, more space gets taken up. Welcome to coding 101. It does make coding and adventure maps harder, I'll give you that. Already debunked this, it's a BS argument.
 * "while Mojang isn't directly copying anything, they have had a lot of inspiration from other mods, if not the LotR Mod, and haven't given due credit"
 * "Vanilla does have cool stuff, and we wouldn't have the LotR Mod without it, but each consecutive update is not as good as the last."
 * "Sure, they add interesting things, but the vast majority of the updates are just semi-useless stuff, or things to make it more difficult for (a) older computers to run, and (b) people to do coding and adventure maps."
 * "I don't think anyone should simply hate the new updates, but I think a pretty good argument can be made that the continually increasing number of additions and changes have made Minecraft lose some of the magic it once had."

"(Ever heard of a "straw man"?)"

In fact I have. You must be very familiar with their making.

OK. I think this proves my point enough. I don't care that you dislike some stuff their adding, but to say we're in a downward spiral is complete bs.