Board Thread:News and Announcements/@comment-25012056-20170711003730/@comment-25012056-20170714121653

Thindithron the Great wrote: I feel that it should be made at least partly clear on the Utumno page that though it is in the mod for gameplay purposes, it does not actually exist anymore. Currently the page is very unambiguous in saying that it does exist, and I believe that a little ambiguity would serve not to mislead players as to its actual state in lore, and assauge the annoyance of lore purists like myself. So we can continue to pretend it doesn't exist in the mod. I would, with your consent, Grievous, change the paragraph in question:

"Over millennia the ruins survived, far in the north beyond any that yet live. Very few even know of its continued existence, or even believe that it could have survived so long; much less could tell where it lies. But an explorer brave and resourceful enough can learn that it is not indeed a myth, nor was it ever completely destroyed. Of those who leap into the darkness below, next to none can hope to find a way out; but if any do go and live to tell the tale, it would surely be a tale of warning."

to:

"Over millennia some say the ruins survived, far in the north beyond any that yet live. Very few even entertain the notion of its continued existence; much less could tell where it lies. But an explorer brave and resourceful enough could discover whether or not it is indeed a myth, or if it was ever completely destroyed. Of those who leap into the darkness below, next to none can hope to find a way out; but if any do go and live to tell the tale, it would surely be a tale of warning."

No. Enough of this bullshit. This is the history of the factions of the mod, and not a place to complain about what you think shouldn't be in the mod. I'm reverting your edit. This is how it played out in the mod. There is no question that it exists in the mod. Enough is enough. This is a warning. The next will be a temporary ban.

Gen. Grievous1138 (LOTR Mod Wiki Admin) comlink 12:16, July 14, 2017 (UTC)