Board Thread:Suggestions forum/@comment-90.71.54.237-20190727122305/@comment-26553378-20190728171222

DentedEar wrote: Minecraftmage113 wrote: "shouldn't these units be a bit more professional"

well... a dagger is not necessarily unprofesional. You could also interpret it as a shortsword, and daggers are decent close-quarters weapons.

anyway, I would agree that higher tier units spawning with daggers could be kind of odd. These units are trained to fight in ranks, and would be equipped as such, daggers don't really fit in that category, swords, pikes, spears, all would. things such as battleaxes and warhammers should also be realistically restricted to more berserker-esque units as they don't make much sense in ranks either. Sorry to be irritating but...

Actually, Battleaxes do make sense to be used by standard Rohirrim Warriors as they are a faction based on the Anglo-saxons, but with horses. Although often wielded by elite Housecarls, axes were nontheless used during Shieldwall formations, which is how most battles were fought. This is exemplified by the Battle of Hastings, when axes within the shield wall were used to easily take down Norman knights.

As for the shortsword interpretation of daggers, this would definitely be proffesional, in fact soldiers fighting in ranks would find a shotsword very useul. The Roman Gladius was a shortsword which Legionaries used when fighting in Testudo. However, I admit that they are better suited to close formations than the messier combat currently used by the mod's units.

All that was simply to justify myself when I say battleaxes, though not warhammers at all, should not be restricted to berserker-esque units for realism I concede, things like dane-axes and such would have been used by rank troops, I was thinking purely on your stereotypical 2-sided berserker axe which most mod battle-axes tend to be. Also, don't be afraid to contradict people, it isn't irritating, it simply helps them to potentially prevent making a fool of themselves.

yeah, my pointing out daggers being able to be interpreted more as shortswords was simply to point out professional is not quite a word that fits there. They could make sense from a certain point of view, especially if your goal is professionalism, efficiency of in-game militarism however would dictate use of daggers being restricted to highly stealth-based units or civilians as you pointed out.

yeah... battleaxe is kinda ambiguous, perhaps same for warhammers, though decisively less. could imply handaxes or dane-axes both of which are used by common footmen, it was aimed moreso at the battleaxes made to be something of berserker axes, based on textures the dwarven and isengard ones leap to mind. As a side note, this restriction would likely not apply to cavalry units as much as they tend to ride ahead of allied footmen, clearing paths through momentum and artificial high-ground to increase force able to be generated with swings which would definitely make sense for weapons such as warhammers, and were indeed used in such ways historically.