Board Thread:Suggestions forum/@comment-25754873-20151231212941/@comment-26149161-20160102160735

Sinzpet, you obviously know a great deal about the elves. However, you seriously underestimate (and insult) me. How dare you say I have never read the lore. I have read all the books hundreds of times, and I know the races of the elves like the back of my hand. The only think you stated I did not know was the info about the Laiquendi moving to Lorien (that fills a few gaps, so thanks). So, I think I know a bit more about the LOTR world than most other 13 yr. olds do. To avoid angry posts, I will ignore the first part of your statement and focus on the topic at hand.

I agree that the "High Elves" should refer to the Noldor only. However, the current "High Elves" faction incldes everyone who lives in Lindon. Hearing all your input has led me to realize that the faction name is a misnomer, because the inhabitants of Lindon also, as you say, include Sindar and Falathrim. If they are meant to all be Noldor, as would be thought, being called High Elves and all, they should all have dark hair and grey eyes, with a few rare blondes, redheads, and silver-haired ones. Instead, they are a mix of different hair and eye colors, and there are in fact no redheads (which, though uncommon, was found among the Noldor) As such, I feel that the mainstream High Elves should look Noldorin, while a Sindar subfaction should live in the woods.

This argument started as to whether the inhabitants of Lindon were all Noldor or not. Obviously, there are Sindar, Falathrim, and other races mixed in, as I stated. So I almost feel like we are arguing about the fact that we ae saying the same thing. I reiterate. The High Elves in the lore were the Noldor, while the other elves in Lindon were not High Elves. The commoners of other races did not understand the difference, and called all of them High Elves. In the Mod, High Elves refers to all the inhabitants of Lindon. The faction should be renamed to Lindon to correspond with the lore, and include Noldor and Sindar subfactions. Falathrim would be part of Sindar. Of course, if this happened, Imladris would need to be it's own faction, and I know so far Imladris seems like it will be a subfaction of High Elves.

In conclusion, it is clear that the mod's version of "High Elves" (which, I hope you realize, I have been trying, without much success, to rationalize above) is flawed. It is used in the game to refer to all of the inhabitants of Lindon, while really it should just include the Noldor. All of you have valid points about the name "High Elves". I feel like this discussion has been very interesting and thought-provoking. I have learned a few things, and I hope others have too.

Thank you,

High King Ithilion (Chat moderator) (Ni celeb ithil) 16:07, January 2, 2016 (UTC)