Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-28593934-20170309220411/@comment-27598543-20170310215718

Solelfar wrote:

FusRoDah666 wrote:

Solelfar wrote: Shadow of War will indeed be a funny game to play, and I would have had no problem with it if it only slightly changed the lore.

However it creates an alternate world to Middle-Earth and does not expressly precise that its story wasn't written by Tolkien himself.

I fear that some people might believe that it's an actual representation of Middle-Earth and its history and that it can be seen as lore.

That wouldn't be a real problem if the Lord of the Rings hadn't such an historical value, and a sentimental value for most of us. It's like trying to rewrite and to erase the past: there are no blacks in Gondor, women did not fight at war, and those insignificant details are in fact of great importance to fully understand Tolkien, his world and his time.

Furthermore would you like to see someone use what you invented and what you consider as been your own work, and utterly modify it for his own purposes? I agree with you mostly, but didn't Tolkien himself say, that he couldn't finish Middle Earth and others can fill the holes with their own ideas? (I remember something like that, but I don't have a link, so this info isn't for sure!)

And as I stated before, if you sell rights of your Fantasy Universe, you take the risk, that the Buyers do something with it, what you don't want. Also every Middle-Earth game I know, is not lore-friendly. There are only some which are closer to the lore, then others.

(For example "The Lord of the Rings: The War in the North". This game is pretty accurate with the happenings from LotR) Well indeed the world can be filled, however it's not filling the world here it's rewriting the story :p.

Plus I don't think so their history respects Tolkien's vision nor Tolkien's opinion on the world. Adding blacks and fighting women, a hero that is clearly mad and is not wise in any way, inhabited by a mad elf who both enjoy killing, does not match Tolkien's legacy, although it is cool or politically correct ^^. (In my opinion) As far as I can remember Sauron took Mordor back, when he was forced to left Dol Guldur. That's lore-friendly, or not?

"Adding Blacks and fighting women" Sure, it makes not much sense that Black people are Gondorians and are guarding Minas Ithil (Minas Morgul). We only now from Black people in Harad and I don't know if before Sauron returned the Gondorians and Haradrim had peace... For fighting women I think it would make more sense then Black Gondorians. I mean women from other folks (Rohirrim or Elves for example) also fight, so why shouldn't some Gondorians too? (Atleast I didn't see an army of Black Gondorians and fighting women in the trailer, or did you? And yeah for political Correctness too...)

There are reasons why Talion & Celebrimbor are "mad". Both of them had families which were killed by Sauron and his forces and Celebrimbor also died because of Sauron. Then they also had the ring (not canon and also irritating, but ok) and we know that it corrupts anyone who is wearing it.