Board Thread:Suggestions forum/@comment-29212138-20170526182111/@comment-25754873-20170526224755

They should not be found at all. The burden of proof is upon you to show they existed in Umbar, beyond a shadow of a doubt.

You seem to be applying your arguement selectively if that statement is not canon then why is the entire Silmarilion? It is hipocritical to do this.