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Zombielizard wrote: Dwrves would have won in the Botfa if not for th orcs bringging them together in the movie (and before you say that's not cannon, I say the book gives us the first 3 mins of the battle says bilbo is knocked out thorin kili and fili die and the it's 2 days later) So the only real soild info we have is from the movie (in the extended edition the dwarves bring ballista, notably turning the battle in their favor look it up)

Basically I'm saying if dwarves and elves fought then dwarves would win.

They are just more adapt for melee! Dains army in bofa would have reked the wood elves but if they were fighting noldor warriors and galadhrim they would have got destoryed since high elves are way more skilled at both ranged and meele