Board Thread:General Mod Discussion/@comment-26486187-20160925013413/@comment-26322120-20160928011505

It is true, most kingdoms were defeated at some point or another, but that dosen't really change anything. Also, Grievous was talking about "Angband," not "Angmar," completely different. I don't believe Sauron was ever defeated by a single man, Isiuldur killed him once (He came back), but that was with the help of an army, and at the expense of Elendil and Gil Galad.