Board Thread:Suggestions forum/@comment-174.22.192.132-20161104024309/@comment-25012056-20161205223307

Eoros wrote: Legoarmy505 wrote: Trump said he will nuke stuff... And with his temper he probably would... But Middle East and China! Not Russia!

Tbh, religon should stay out of politics.

1. Most religions have similar rules to the Ten Commandments because they make people feel safe, so governments also adopt most of these anyway.

2. Religion normally has someone with absolute power over the church like the pope, nothing wrong with that but there have been corrupt ones.

3. Religions can be radicalised (crusades) What a bunch of crap. "The crusades were radicalized": are you kidding? The purpose was to protect the Christians from Muslim persecution in Palestine, and to make safe trade routes. The Muslims there were the agressors, and were radicalized. Yes, there were some bad things done, like people killing Jews, however, these were  essentially always committed by people who either just joined along unwelcome, or people called by Pope Innocent III "drunk on the concept of a holy war".

Pope John Paul II only apologized for a small group who abandoned the Crusades to attack Constantinope for wealth, and did not represent a majority.

The Christians did not force people to convert. This is a baseless claim, and it is entirely against Christian teaching to do so. The Pope never called for it, and the Crusaders never did it.

It really frustrates me how many people have a completely false understanding of the Crusades. As a whole, they were perfectly just wars, both spiritually and temporally, and the Crusaders as a whole were brave and holy men who wanted to save their fellow Christians from the Islamic persecutions, and to make sure that the place where Christ's life took place was kept sacred.

https://pics.onsizzle.com/what-will-you-take-a-deus-we-will-take-jerusalem-3013470.png

The Crusaders were by no means better than the Muslims; in fact, by many accounts the Muslims fought more honorably. During the Third Crusade the Muslim leader even sent his personal doctor when Richard the Lionheart was wounded. The First Crusade and the Third Crusade are defendable, and the second might be too, but everything after that was done for the sake of profiteering, for the mostpart. Damn you, merchants of Venice.

The Crusaders, while in the Holy Land, not only slaughtered non-Christian civilians, raped, and plundered, but they also attacked Muslims of the area not affiliated with the radicals that were posing a threat. As a matter of fact, the most stable part of the history of the Middle-East was between the Islamic conquest and the Crusades; but the Crusades destroyed this forever. The Crusades are the source of western-Mideastern tension, and a reason of why the Mideast is such a mess today.

That being said, the Crusades are unfortunately a necessary part of history. Without the wave of exploration they caused history may have been much different.

I will also state that without the Crusades, we would have no Crusader memes, and that would be sad.

Gen. Grievous1138 (LOTR Mod Wiki Admin) comlink 22:33, December 5, 2016 (UTC)