Thread:High Prince Imrahil/@comment-26210095-20160718114659/@comment-26295802-20160718200825

Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

High Prince Imrahil wrote:

Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

High Prince Imrahil wrote:

Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

High Prince Imrahil wrote: But that's my point. An organization, a cause, is made of the people that comprise it. And the people that comprised The Confederacy were a mixed bag. Were some of them racists who were fighting for slavery? Of course. Were some of them noble people fighting for their homes and families? Yes. I fully admit that that flag has had it's fair share of racism over the years. But my point is that, like the nation it stands for, it's a mixed bag. It stands for racism to some, but to others, it stands for freedom and independence from tyranny. My point is not to say that The South was a bunch of saints that believed in racial equality and got a bad rep, my point is to say that they were a mixed bag, and by extension, so was The Confederacy. Well, it was a mixed bag in terms of the people. Those who held power over it, however, the rich landowners, weren't. But the flag doesn't represent "the people in power over it". It represents the nation itself, and the people that comprise that nation. It represents those who had power over it, honestly and truthfully, as it is they who actually made the nation it represented, and they who controlled it. While it may represent the people in a different way, when you talk about what it represents in terms of actions it is those of they who controlled it. The people it represents is a different case, yes, but the actions it represents are those of the people who held power over it. That's not necessarily true. The actions of the nation are not always made by those in "power" over it. The people of The South were not mindless robots that did nothing but obey the "rich landowners", they were people with minds and opinions of their owns, and have as much right to define the meaning of The Confederate flag as anyone else does. Not always, but in this case most of the actions were taken by the rich. Well, that depends on what you define as "action"