Board Thread:News and Announcements/@comment-26149161-20170523205516/@comment-26149161-20170524215741

I do still think it would be better for the Wiki to remove the Server pages. Whether we like it or not, they are currently a part of this Wiki, and the poor quality therein generally harms the polished quality that we as editors strive for.

I can understand the rational behind deleting pages that aren't "up to snuff", and it makes some sense. However, there will be the doubtless butthurt owner who complains that his page is being deleted. It also doesn't get rid of the constant served drama--many of the best-written pages will be the major servers, who often have such fights and petty arguments. Imo, there's not enough of a benefit to keeping them around to have to deal with those. As for a server page template, that might get rid of the server owners, but the player drama would remain.

Overall, another point: the server's aren't the Wiki Staff's problem. They are something the server community should ulltimately deal with and work to keep in good shape. When they are on this wiki, they become the responsibility of those who don't play on the servers, as opposed to people who are actual members of those. I'm sorry if that sounds selfish in any way, it isn't meant to be, but it's true. As Sam said, it would make our lives easier.

Furthermore, another wiki would help with specialization. We don't have a "Plugin Help" forum here, or a "Complaints", or a "Server Discussion", or a "Known Hacker List", or even a few separate forums for the major servers, so on and so forth. However, this other wiki could use such a thing, and be far more efficient when it comes to working with these topics. Some of those things have been requested before, and they haven't been added. Such a wiki would allow players to utilize those features.

Staff on this wiki also don't all play on servers. As before, a different roster of server-specializing staff would be far more effective and efficient in keeping track of and handling such issues. Of course, a trusted, neutral bureaucrat would be necessary to prevent corruption and unfairness, but overall it would be easier for players to find the help they need, especially if they need a specific server staff member.

Finally, with regards to Mevans' worry that people, being lazy, would't go to the server wiki, hurting viewership, I say this. It's a legitimate concern--we want servers to thrive and do well. I agree with him, that we need to have links to specific server's pages. I'm fully in favor of prominent, obvious links on the Servers and TOS Pages. Heck, it might even be a good idea to extend that to the largest server pages, such as The Second Age and hARDA. But the masses of small servers, it seems most people agree, should be sent to the other Wiki and linked from the Servers page.

Ithilion, Discussions Moderator (Auta i lómë) 21:57, May 24, 2017 (UTC)