Board Thread:Suggestions forum/@comment-27200931-20170310012222

"The passage was low and roughly made. It was not too difficult for the hobbit, except when, in spite of all care, he stubbed his poor toes again, several times, on nasty jagged stones in the floor. "A bit low for goblins, at least for the big ones," thought Bilbo, not knowing that even the big ones, the orcs of the mountains, go along at a great speed stooping low with their hands almost on the ground" - "There a host of Wargs came ravening and with them came the bodyguard of Bolg, goblins of huge size with scimitars of steel" - The Hobbit.

If the big ones, Uruks, can easily make their way on a small passage like that, they probably aren't that big. The "goblins of huge size" mentioned on the second quote are probably the "big ones" mentioned by Hobbit, so they're "huge" in comparison with other Orcs.

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"The great Men [Númenoréans] towered above the tallest Orcs, and their swords and spears far outreached the weapons of their enemies." - Unfinished Tales.

The Númenoréans were on average a tall people, around 7 feet, but normal men weren't much shorter than that to be honest. So, if the Númenoréans tower above the tallest Orcs, then normal men should be on average taller than Orcs.

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''"It was the vanguard of the whole remaining forces of Saruman that he was now committing to battle for the conquest of Westfold..." - "But the shieldwall held. Then, since the Orcs were of less avail in such fighting because of their stature, fierce companies of the Dunlendish hillmen were thrown against it."'' - Unfinished Tales.

If the vanguard of an Isengard army, obviously comprised of many Uruk-hai, couldn't break a shieldwall because of their own size, then we can assume that they weren't very tall.

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My suggestion is to make the Uruks as tall as Human NPCs, while giving them the same health, or probably even a bit less. Their equipment could also have less protection (13, 15?), currently they are as good as Dwarven armor. Honestly, if the Uruks were so strong in the lore as they are in the mod, what chance would Men have against them? And it's common knowledge that their strength lies in their numbers and on their ability to spread horror and fear, not on their particular physical strength.

The Uruk berserkers and the Black Uruks are special cases. The berserkers could have more health, since they can, because of their battle frenzy, withstand more pain. The Black Uruks, as elite orcs, could have a bit more health too, maybe 22? 