Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-27264399-20151123211021/@comment-25101089-20151126163945

Faenor of the Silver Laurel wrote:

Heartgold1234 wrote: If the evidence cannot be proven, it is not evidence. That is how science works. If you can prove it beyond reasonable doubt, it exists. If you put out wild theories with no proof. Like God existing… then it doesn't exist. Those are the facts. Umm... Science is constantly changing what it says is truth. Religion does not change, or at least Orthodoxy does not. Take astronomy. Astronomers have admitted that what's true about the stars one day could be tossed out the window as garbage.

And there is proof that God exists. Just as evolution is a wild hypothesis with no basis in empirical evidence. For instance, the fossil record actually shows very little change between species. The creatures one says could have "evolved" from one another are actually quite different in their bones' molecular compositions.

But truly. You know you aren't going to convince any of the Christians here through a wiki thread, and we know we won't convince you. So drop it.

Morgul - I don't know where I called you irresponsible or incompetent. Forgetful or caught in the moment, perhaps. Perhaps even you did not know it, as I do not know your age and therefore you might not have taken the elder catechisms. I shall not apologize, however, as my statement was accurate. You did not mention the arguments brought up by the Roman Catholic catechisms. But I won't hold you to that, and so let it be put behind us. The argument about science changing what it says is completely missing the point, sorry... Science "changes" what it says, yes, but "updates" would be more accurate. Scientific theories are updated to account for new observations. It is very rare that a theory is tossed out completely. Instead, it might be modified so that the old theory still works, but the new theory is a more complete description that encompasses the old one but also is accurate in areas that the old one was not. (Example: Newtonian gravity -> General Relativity.)

And if a theory is tossed out completely, then it's not just 'hurr durr we were wrong before how stupid', it's 'that was the best we could do with what we knew at the time, but now we know more, so we can do better.'

"If you think the earth is flat, you're wrong. If you think the earth is a sphere, you're also wrong.

But, if you think that thinking the earth is flat and thinking the earth is a sphere are equally wrong, then you are more wrong than either." - a quote from some very good website somewhere