Board Thread:General Mod Discussion/@comment-26065088-20170217143100/@comment-31907131-20170223040052

High King Ithilion wrote: Gandalfthegreatestwizard- EpicMithrandir wrote: Hatholwaith? Is there no end to this mod 'lore'? They are an expansion of the "bearded axemen" from the book, as Gorbag says. Therefore, they are canon, though perhaps some of their faction will not be.

"For there have come many Men,not tall but broad, bearded like dwarves, wielding great axes, of a kind we have not seen before.Out of some wide land in the savage East they come, I deem".

Ithilion, Discussions Moderator (Auta i lome) 12:30, February 22, 2017 (UTC) I see. I'm rather sick of being argued against at every turn when I point out corrections in lore and why we should follow lore. I have become so indifferent that an entire faction built on 'bearded axemen' no longer worries me. But I see now that people are going to continue with much of this, and no one will heed my mostly lone voice advocating the most conservative possible expansion of lore. So by all means, have your Hatholwaith.

Though I do still think, and it pains me, that this mod is becoming more and more 'the Mevans and co-workers' ideas mod', or even just 'the suggestions that get the most kudos mod' rather than just LotR. But it is what it is.