Board Thread:Forum Roleplays/@comment-26210095-20150704202012/@comment-26065062-20150708082405

Thorin Stonehelm wrote: Actually that is not true, he can be defeated without eru (example tulkas beat him easily when the valar attacked utumno.) he is the only vala to know fear and by this point he is no longer really the most powerful. His armies are controlled by his will/power which he disperses throughout the army to control it, thus his power is dissipated and he actually grows weaker the larger his armies are. Also ungoliant was able to defeat him without any help he only escaped because of his balrogs Yes, and he got more earth-bound and weak the more wicked and evil he became, which significantly lessened his powers, he no longer has the power to change coastlines and crack mountains open like he did before the Firstborn woke.