Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-26296200-20151017191418/@comment-27073530-20151020123200

In all honesty, there will be no real victorian group.

Well, here is the reason...

Place all 4 the lands in one massive world. (thus containing middle-earth including Harad, Rhûn, Lands of the valar etc.) (Alagaesia) (Westeros including North of the wall and entire Essos) (Narnia including the lands of all these races, i have read the books a while ago but cant remember all the names tbh)

Alright, so here comes the point.

Lets start in the lands from Lord of the Rings,

If you take the complete armies, you will know there is no chance that the armies of Melkor and Beleriant would march up together against a common foe. The hatred between elves and orcs is so deep that they start fighting on sight. No major character could ever change that. These dwarves from the blue mountains may consider teaming up with the goblins, because these even had trade in times of peace. The haradrim and easterlings have such a massive hatred for the might of Gondor that they will never back up the forces of the Valar. Who neither will support Morgoth in his conquest.

In Alagaesia,

The varden is in fact a group of rebelling humans who want to bring down the might of the Tiran Galbatorix. These two forces would never back each other up. The Urgals in their full strenght would only be a bait for their foes because they in fact stand alone for their brutality in general. Face it, no men would like it to fight side by side with a large stinking Urgal who could aim for your head as easy as your foes head.

In Westeros and Essos,

I cannot imagine the house targaryen fighting amongside the Lannisters and the White walkers. Most of their soldiers go drunk in to battle after a long and busy night with their beloved husbands. These humans even ignore the warnings from the wall that the white walkers are coming to destroy all life on the world. How will they ever unite if Melkor, Galbatorix or Jadis decides to invade?

In Narnia,

Aslan might be a friendly lion, Jadis at the other hand is plain rude and too willingly for power and domination. There are two forces at war who could eventually team up. That is as long as Jadis regonices she is facing a threath bigger then herself. These forces, of the entire narnian world would be able to cooperate and stand against enemy invaders. But will they?

If you put these continents together, it wont be a fight between Lotr, Eragon, Game of Thrones and Narnia. Each group or nation would choose sides which fits their interests the best.

Most likely the elves from Lotr and Eragon will unite under one banner for they are mostly the same. Many normal elves fighting amongside a few strong elves. They will team up with the Valar to safe that what is still good in the world. Ofcourse, Aslan will join their cause because he is fighting for the same.

The dwarves from Lotr and Eragon will back each other up too, they are both dwarves, also share the same interests, use the same skills, both carefull with humans and elves. But the dwarves from Farten Dur have a hatred to Urgals and the realm of Galbatorix while the Dwarves from middle earth have a hatred to Sauron and Melkor. The last dwarves will try to cooperate with men, thus creating a difficult situation.

Galbatorix forces,

These massive armies from Galbatorix are simply human, fighting for human survival under the leadership of a rudeless king. Galbatorix may have done bad things in the past, yet he is not purely evil. If he gets the chance he will try to ally with the Telmarines, Rohan, Gondor, Haradrim (see the issue?), Rhûn, Westeros and Essos in the hope to take control of these folks and people. But he will also try to make a deal with Melkor and Valyria (see the other issue?) because he is eager to remake the dragon army. Ofcourse Melkor wont support him because he wants all good men to be destroyed.

Jadis,

yes these forces of the white witch are a complicated matter. outcasting beasts who find a good life in her everlasting land of winter. guided by her power and well threathed as long as they remain loyal to her. She has a hatred for all that is good and honest, which makes her a enemy of the Valar, Varden, Aslan and the Valyrian armies. She will be able to cooperate with Melkor, Sauron and the Urgals from which it is clear they form one team. She just will not have backup from the evil humans because they have other desires.

I can move on like this for hours, trying to find a reason why a team would or would not backup another.

the point is, most of the evil humans will back up, just like the good humans creating a fair battle. Both good and evil factions would debate and wage war over who they want to support.

Sauron will ally jadis but be a foe to galbatorix.

The valar will support aslan but disapprove galbatorix aid.

The forces of Westeros and Essos will most likely backup the other humans, but some choosing teams with the evil ones while others support the good ones, depending what happens with their own realm.

In fact, massive chaos will break out and it will be many seperated teams who fight each other. Just like a GoT situation around the entire world.

which means, no winner at all. except for maybe the white walkers who will have massive hordes of orcs and humans in their armies. not to forget massive dead dragons, wargs, wolves, fell beasts, eagles, hobbits, dwarves, etc.

coming to the point of white walkers, you could indeed better ask yourself who would win the fight if the white walkers and the oathbreakers from lotr come in to a war?

These ghosts from lotr can easily slaughter all the wraiths. But their weapons are not made of valyrian steel or obsidian which makes them unable to kill a white walker himself, who could resurrect the dead. The white walkers simply cannot hit these ghosts, which makes it no winner at all.

end of the discussion;)