Board Thread:General Mod Discussion/@comment-25981649-20170624004847/@comment-192.31.105.177-20170627161735

Notverygoodusername wrote:

192.31.105.177 wrote:

Thindithron the Great wrote:

192.31.105.177 wrote: A regular hill-troll was able to kill Arador, Aragorn's grandfather and the chieftain of the rangers of the north, and while a regular elf was powerful, a troll was not to be messed with and only trumphed by a ent / huorn, whom they were made as a mockery of. With an arrow, not in actual combat- probably a cowardly move of some kind. Though even in melee, a Dúnedain would be hard-pressed to defeat one easily. Aye, still.

I wouldn't mind an extremely rare elven unit that is extremely powerful, but the few elves who can be hired so easily shouldn't be able to slay a troll so easily. But why not up the price and rarity of 'em few elves?

Also, about the hyper elite-units, why do they need a bigger gap? Is it just to make them more op and have them slaughter more enemies?

Citadel guards probably wouldn't be hirable, and would only be found in specific places.

Uruk berserker we already have, and I have heard your thoughts about them, but are they really "hyper-elite" with that 40 health, 6 attack (that's what it is now, I asume it wouldn't be changed), 17 armor (I asume that won't change either)?

Why would black numenoreans be "hyper-elites"? They should only have a slight health difference from ohter men (about 22 health) and average armor/weapons (iron strenght or such).

What the heck are morgul-knights? Never heard of them.

Hill-trolls are mountain trolls, they were renamed in some Update.

I don't know that much about guards of mithlond.

I have never heard of guards of orthanc.

Bolg's guard were regular gundabad uruks, I believe.

Sauron was a maiar, and when he was in the mod, he had 200 health. A balrog is a maiar, and has 300 health.

EDIT: Still horrible grammar... Not into fxing it - If we would increase the strength, rarity and price of all Elven units we would make them so rare that they would be nigh impossible to find and nigh-impossible to afford.

- They need a bigger gap to make them more of a threat to players in 1 v 1 rather than in swarms, and should be able to take out most regular units.

- Indeed, most Hyper-elites or Story-units should not be hireable from a captain.

- They would be, considering that they have 40 health, 2 protection, (would only wear a helmet) 8 attack (would deal full damage) and have a bonus fighting against cavalry. This makes them a Rohirrim SLAYER and because they are powerful should require a special task before they can be hired.

- They would not be Hyper-elite, rather more of a very rare unit which could be classed under 'Story-unit', but I imagine them to be of similair strength of the old Swan Knights, (which good will have a replacement for, such as Princes of Dor-en-nil or something)

- Morgul Knights, while the name is uncanon, are the "great cavalry of horsemen" that followed the Witch-king into battle. I assume they would have around 24 health, and wield Morgul Equipment but the reason they are considered 'Story-units' is because of their affiliation to the Witch-king and therefore would require a quest / task to be hireable.

- True, but Mountain Trolls still exist as a seperate species. These ones would be mostly siege-trolls and be rather formidable.

- Self-made name, can be replaced by any uber-elite name for an elite Elven unit.

- These were the Dunlendings employed by Saruman to guard the gates of Ring of Isengard and Orthanc itself. They should be powerful, and should have similair health to a Berserker and wield Arnor-like armor. I made a suggestion such as that a while ago.

- Bolg's Guard were large orcs that were big enough that Thorin Oakenshield, one of the greatest dwarven warriors could not break through their shields, and slew him. They should be definetly be made stronger than most regular Gundabad Uruks, which I imagine as simply larger, Uruk-breeds of Orcs.

- Sauron would definitely not be added in like that, but I agree with the Balrog.

Your grammar is fine! It's definitely better than mine, and you are doing an incredible job so far!