Board Thread:Suggestions forum/@comment-29021580-20170227222143/@comment-28813058-20170228223954

High King Ithilion wrote: Plus, Sauron was no fighter. He was powerful through his slaves and through his armies, and his ability to corrupt others. He certainly wasn't the godly demon we see in the films-he was *beaten* by Elendil and Gil-Galad in the book (though he took them with him). And Luthien was able to sing him into surrender, and he narrowly beat Finrod in a singing battle.

Ithilion, Discussions Moderator (Auta i lome) 14:21, February 28, 2017 (UTC) Wasn't it Morgoth who was sung asleep by Luthien.