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AvocadoSandpaper wrote: High King Ithilion wrote: Hot take: Fingolfin. More or less every time we see Sauron enter physical battle, he loses. It's clear that he's not a fighter. He fell to Huan, fled before Eonwe, and only fought Gil-galad and Elendil when there was no other way out--and even then they slew him, though they died in the process. The greatest Noldorin warrior of all time could very likely take Sauron in a straight duel. It's in treachery, manipulation, and deception where Sauron truly excels.

Ithilion, Discussions Moderator (Auta i lómë) Do you think Fingolfin would beat Feanor High King Ithilion? Yep. Feanor is a genius and a charismatic, highly skilled craftsman. But he's not a warrior like Fingolfin.

I just want to clarify: Sauron is explicitly at his strongest during the Second Age, and at that point he was of equal or higher strength to Morgoth at the end of the First.

Ithilion, Discussions Moderator (Auta i lómë)