Board Thread:General Mod Discussion/@comment-27860585-20160227122451/@comment-26347028-20160320174821

Catfishperson wrote: Okay, first the dwarves (and the Edain) were present in that battle too, we cannot simply assume that they played less of a role in it then the Vanyar, unless we start from the assumption that elves are superior to dwarves, which what we are here to debate. There were about as many Maiar as Vanyar in that battle. There were also a lot of dragons, and some of them were rather large too. Dragons were excellent shock troopers, to assume that they would all be "shot out of the sky" before they utterly destroyed the elves (presuming that you are correct and that the elves were the primary force in the Host of the Valar) is taking quite a leap. The Edain and Dwarves were allied forces, and like at the Nirnaeth Ardoeniad, rather obviously numbered less. Please can you quote where you get the numbers of the Maiar from, because only one is actually named. The 'Hosts of the Valar' includes only one actual army from Aman itself, so I think I'm right to assume it's the main one.