Thread:TheSquidychicken/@comment-31308946-20170525193032/@comment-67.221.101.146-20170607031535

Just out of curiousity Lysurus, how long have you been alive? I don't recall ever saying I study any debate or saying that I have done so for any period of time. It is certainly possible that I don't understand evolutionary theory since, it comes in so many, many different flavors and varieties. Here are some things:

"Ambulocetus has its eyes raised up on top of its head in a very strange way, an it is unusually large for an early whale...maybe it's not on the main line [in whale evolution]." (Dr. Philip Gingerich)

"Dr. Lawrence Barnes, a whale evolution expert from the National History Museum . . . does not believe that Basilosaurus was an ancestor to modern whales because this whale lived at the same time as the modern form of whales"

and may i ask, regarding the Basilosaurus, how do you know its led are functionless if it is extinct. As I said before, there can be no scientific proof of macroevolution because it cannot be tested or repeated (both of which are fundamental to scientific theory) really there is no way either of us can win this battle because we both have the same evidence. You start with the assumption that evolution is true and thus the evidence must be fit into that framework. My assumption is that the Bible is true and I therefore fit my interpretation of said evidence into that framework. When you say you are objectively considering evidence you are mistaken because there are other explanations which can be given. As for vestigial organs, the appendix, the tonsils, the pineal gland and the thymus used to all be considered vestigial. We now know the function of all of these organs.

What you have said about species and kind is incorrect(also "kind" is a Biblical term not a scientific one and I never meant it otherwise). For example Canis lupus and Canis adustus. Species are most likely to reproduce in nature, but they are actually genetically capable of reproducing with other closely related species. I may have been incorrect about saying Family was relatable to kind it may have been genus I don't recall. When you say evolution was hyperdriven, you are correct. We like to call those people breeders. People of ancient times were no morons, they bred their animals to keep traits they wanted and this helped diversify populations and bring out many of the genetic pools we see as species today. As for genetic bottleneck, it is reasonable to assume that two people with perfect genes(e.g. no mutations) and perfect diversity (e.g. every set of alleles being Aa Bb etc. you get the gist) would be able to be the origin or all of humanity today especially considering the fact that we believe in a young earth. (not to mention the fact that Noah was another bottle neck) Genetic bottleneck would, I would think, be a greater problem for one who believes in macroevolution because of such a long period of time of "lower" species such as insects interbreeding within their various species.

Finally for now, I'd like to talk about dating methods. With any radiometric dating you have to know the original amount of the parent element in the fossil. But since we can both agree that neither scientists nor any humans were around 100 million years ago to test spinosaurus bones there is no way for there to be an accurate start amount to be known for any dating to be done. Therefore all dating is based on assumptions which therefore will prove evolution because those who make the assumptions believe in evolution already.

I don't have time to address other points right now, but I do want to say that I am sorry you have such a closed mind about spiritual things. You are correct that I can never prove to you that hell is real. However it would be proof enough if you see it. I know there is nothing I will say that could convince you, but you must understand that the only reason my brother and I talk about God and our beliefs is that we care about people. We truly believe that hell is a real place and we don't want anyone to go there. Most of the reason I wanted to write this stuff is because it is interesting to get other points of view and because I like to try to explain why what I believe makes sense to me. A purely scientific world is a depressing place, there is no room for morality there and it truly scares me. Thank you for your willingness to share your thoughts. Until next time DoctorAckbar out!