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High King Ithilion wrote: Dextrositylight wrote: High King Ithilion wrote: Dorwinion is *not* one of the oldest Elven kingdoms.

Ithilion, Discussions Moderator (Auta i lome) 21:33, March 14, 2017 (UTC) What age would you say the kingdom of dorwinion forms then, and if the elves don't come from the east and are a resulting kingdom of the great jouney west, where do they even come from?

How would a kingdom like that develop if not early given the long lifespans of elves, with it's own culture with such powerful surrounding nations? I would say that Elves long dwelt across Rhun, and when Men came they settled Dorwinion as a state. Over a long time, Elves were driven in to hiding by the Easterlings, and some settled in Dorwinion. Once Rhovanion was destroyed, some of the Northmen took refuge in Dorwinion, and it was likely attacked by the Easterlings.

Gondor would never have actually ruled Dorwinion-the geography is wrong.

Ithilion, Discussions Moderator (Auta i lome) 12:27, March 16, 2017 (UTC) Gondor actually did, as it's northern border was the southern eves of Mirkwood and it's eastern border was the sea of Rhún.