Thread:TheSquidychicken/@comment-31308946-20170525193032/@comment-26347028-20170526160319

TheSquidychicken wrote: Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote:

You then use the argument for causation. Let me ask you a fairly simple question, if the universe can't cause itself, what caused God? If the lack of God caused him to exist, or whatever metaphor you want to use to represent God, surely the lack of a universe, of time and space, can cause the universe? Ok I suppose I should give up on trying to explain this since people will not accept it. But you ask me where God came from. Lets say he doesnt exist, where did the universe come from then?

God is a being outside of time, so he has no beginning. He invented time. The universe came from the same place God did, in the end. That's what matters. The first cause May have been God, or may have of been. But the simple matter remains that he's irrelevant.

Then why does the universe need a beginning, if God doesn't?