Board Thread:General Mod Discussion/@comment-26149161-20150731144946/@comment-27689279-20150801212558

Thorin Stonehelm wrote: Aarplane22 wrote: Thorin Stonehelm wrote: tell me this aarplane? why should mevans change what he is already doing hmm? this mod is his creation to do with as he sees fit, we should be grateful that he occasionally does accept input from us, but i see no reason for him to change the mod on the basis of you 'facts' and that you are frustrated with the admins. if you're unsatisfied with the direction the mod is going then make your own mod and do it your own way Appealling to Mevans as some kind of savior or tangible, factual lore source. Again, a logical fallacy in itself.

If he doesn't change the mod to these facts, then that makes the mod "uncanon" (as if it wasn't already). But again, what kind of a mod (or world for that matter) would that be if he followed these facts to make it truly "canon"? If he made the mod as "canon" as you claim it to be, things would be much different (and much less fun). See the double standard here? And yet, you would whole-heartedly talk down on the movies, as if they were any less canon than the mod. This is the delusion that needs to stop.

I am not dissatisfied with the general mod as a whole, I clearly stated I respect Mevans for the work he's done in the large scale. I am dissatisfied, however, with certain elements such as the Wood-elven armor (and others). And it's these elements, which are such a minor change (that can be easily done), are blown into big issues when there is a bias dictating the decisions. Again, that's why I made the resource pack. And again, why I have to be here. You're magnifying my statements to a point where it looks like I hate the entire mod. This is really the only thing left you can do, try and distort my points, because there is no specific fact (reference in the book) that you can pull up to negate them. The discussion is long over, and the movies are justified objectively; it's whether or not you want to accept it, or keep beating a dead horse by twisting my points. I'm merely here to prevent the admins from painting me as some kind of bitter troll, because I know they have that kind of charisma for the rest of the users.

 Elvenking of the Woodland Realm  21:04, August 1, 2015 (UTC) funny because in what i just said i in no way refered to mevans as " some kind of savior or tangible, factual lore source." i simply stated that this is HIS mod to do with as HE (or she) pleases. if he wishes to go against the majority opinion he may. i have never put mevans on a pedestal and i never will, right now i am simply pointing out that all your arguements mean nothing about the future of this mod if he chooses not to incorporate your ideas. You're right, it is his mod, and he has ultimate control. Does that mean that all his choices are factually correct? Not in the slightest, whether the majority has an opinion in this objective matter is out of the question. You are, in fact, putting him on a pedestal, because you're supporting the idea that he should go against logic and fact just because he can. It's painting Mevans as this "all powerful, all knowing" Illuvatar, and all his decisions should be accepted just because he can, regardless if it goes against canon (or rather, his defined "canon", as the movies are equally as canon as the mod) and fact. Yet you want to reason with fact, logic, and "canon". This makes both your statement and some of Mevans' decisions (again, not the mod as a whole) logically incorrect, and proves nothing. Again, I am fully aware a change in mod design may never happen, that's why I created the resource pack. Doesn't mean I don't have the right to speak out on it and point out the clearly observable bias, that holds the mod back from better things.

 Elvenking of the Woodland Realm  21:25, August 1, 2015 (UTC)