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Gen. Grievous1138 wrote:

High King Ithilion wrote:

Gen. Grievous1138 wrote:

MrHobit1234 wrote: With all the purges against the Black Numenoreans? I highly doubt any where left in Umbar. If there were enough in Mordor for a bunch of guards and horsemen, there would probably be enough to return to the fanatically Sauron-loyal Umbar.

Gen. Grievous1138 (LOTR Mod Wiki Admin) comlink 10:52, March 3, 2017 (UTC) Why? They would serve better as an elite guard for the Nazgul, being pwerful warriors. What would the need be to retake Umbar, where they had not lived for thousands of years, when they could serve the Dark Lord directly.

There I would disagree, the men of Gondor are not Nazis or Soviets. The children would likely be indoctrinated into Gondorian society, and the women driven out or killed.

Ithilion, Discussions Moderator (Auta i lome) 12:29, March 3, 2017 (UTC) Indoctrination is hardly better or worse than killing them.

Because Umbar was one of Sauron's strongest allies and an absolutely crucial element in his plans. Were I Sauron, I would send my best human soldiers to lead them.

Gen. Grievous1138 (LOTR Mod Wiki Admin) comlink 19:42, March 3, 2017 (UTC) They weren't crucial in the slightest He had massive armies taht could have utterly annihilated the West.

More accurate, Dolgukhor, would be to talk about Rome. Comparatively, Rome was conquered closer to us than Umbar was conquered by Gondor. Do you know any pure-blooded Romans still alive?

Ithilion, Discussions Moderator (Auta i lome) 20:08, March 3, 2017 (UTC)

Ithilion, Discussions Moderator (Auta i lome) 20:08, March 3, 2017 (UTC)