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Gen. Grievous1138 wrote:

High King Ithilion wrote: Also, the corrupted elves are rather off, seeing as Tolkien eventually decided Orcs were bred from various kinds of Men.... I'm a bit late to the discussion here, but there are a number of origins he had thought up, and though he eventually went with this one, giving orcs shorter lifespans than Mem in the same letter, it doesn't quite fit. Bolg lived at the utmost least 150 years, longer than any human, and it's likely that he's older than that. Tolkien never published any of the orc origins, and since the most recent contradicts Tolkien's published works, the origin is still questionable too. Corrupted from elves is the one he generally stuck with for longer, and it makes the most sense, as Orcs were mentioned LONG before Men were even in existence (The Silmarillion states that Men awoke with the sun int he First Age, while Orcs had troubled Beleriand for thousands of years before.)

Gen. Grievous1138 (LOTR Mod Wiki Admin) comlink 10:19, April 28, 2017 (UTC) Yeah, and I started thinking sometimes, wait, Orcs aren't immortal, but they once were elves, so maybe because of the torment etc they became mortal, or Eru stepped in, and made the orcs mortal, just to make them suffer less (or to screw with Morgoth), the first one is the one I think.