Board Thread:Suggestions forum/@comment-25012056-20170310224811/@comment-29773086-20180504215623

Gen. Grievous1138 wrote: Thindithron the Great wrote: I'm a little late to this thread, but I don't understand the reasoning below:

Gen. Grievous1138 wrote: They are undeniably canon: Boromir I was killed in a battle in which no Nazgûl or men were present by a Morgul-wound in the Third Age, meaning that orcs with Morgul-weapons were present and existed. That's more than can be said for many less powerful things.

Gen. Grievous1138 (LOTR Mod Wiki Admin) comlink 00:08, March 13, 2017 (UTC) Boromir I was certainly struck by a Morgul blade in the sudden assault out of Mordor in 2475 of the Third Age, but there isn't really anything to suggest that the attacking force was comprised solely of Black Uruks; it is altogether possible that there were other orcs and Men among the force, and it is almost certain that they would have had at least one of the Nine as their captain. Any of these others could have done the deed, though one of the Nazgûl is most likely: they are known to use the weapons, and while they feared Boromir, the rest of their servants would have feared him even more. The reason why only uruks were mentioned is because they were the most noteworthy element of the army, as this was the first time they were seen by the Men of Gondor, having not ventured out of Mordor before the invasion. Nothing here excludes the possibility of orcs wielding Morgul blades, but neither does anything confirm it beyond doubt; it is not "undeniably canon".

The black uruks led the assault. It was specifically stated in Fellowship that the attack on Osgiliath in 3018 was the first time any of the Nazgûl had revealed themselves in open combat in the Third Age, so that ruled them out. No Men are named as fighting for Minas Morgul until the War of the Ring, and it was only stated that the forces of Morgul were involved, so it would be a bigger leap to say that there were men with Morgul-knives present at the battle than it would to say that there was an uruk with a knife present.

Gen. Grievous1138 (LOTR Mod Wiki Admin) comlink 10:33, May 4, 2018 (UTC) If that is what Tolkien wrote, then he contradicted himself in this case. Because the Nine had fought in many combats throughout the Third Age. The Witch-King travelled to the north and founded the realm of Angmar, destroying or annexing the realms of Arthedain, Cardolan and Rhudaur. Later he was defeated by the alliance of Gondor and Lindon. He fled to Mordor, where he led the Nazgûl in the siege of Minas Ithil. That was 475 years before the Black Uruk attack (which was never stated to be commanded by Uruks). So either you misremembered the statement or it has been rendered invalid.