Board Thread:Suggestions forum/@comment-28153737-20161130073434/@comment-25754873-20161218032119

Loke Khan Torgou of Rhun wrote: MrHobit1234 wrote: JimMoriartyX wrote: MrHobit1234 wrote:

HD of the south wrote:

MrHobit1234 wrote: Loke Khan Torgou of Rhun wrote: MrHobit1234 wrote: Loke Khan Torgou of Rhun wrote: Lord Eldacar wrote: 1) Near Haradrim were never mentioned to have Iron armour; it was explicitly stated to be bronze scales with a base of red cloth/padding. Yes, some of the Haradrim were mentioned to use Iron weapons, but the quote in which this is described pertain's to the Late Second Age/Early Third Age. We don't even know if they retained or lost this technology by the War of the Ring. (From Silmarillion, "Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age). 2) In Return of the King, and several passages of Unfinished Tales, Gondorian Soldiery is mentioned to be battle-hardened and markedly superior to that of Orcs and Evil Men. Of course they would be able to 1v1 most other mannish warriors. How else do you think the kingdom was able to at least hold off the onslaught of Mordor, Rhun, and Harad?

3) Now for In-game balance. Near Harad has Horse-Archers, which Gondor does not. These are effective mobile ranged units. And Near Harad still has weapons that are equal to Gondor's. Also, Mumakil in the future: those will surely pick up the slack of Near Harad's armour rating and then some by offering a massive and powerful unit for the faction.

The armies of rhun were only defeated by gondor because of a surprise attack. RHun DESTROYED gondor armies when they weren't ambushed by them. Rhun massively out numbered Gondor, but the Gondorian armies(during the Kings) outclassed Gondor's armies also I do believe the armies of Rhun attacked Gondor after it was crippled by the Great Plague and the other time they teamed up with the Variags and Near Haradhrim to take down Gondor. Also if Gondor was so "weak" how do you explain this? Where does it say the Wainriders outnumber Gondor? Why do gondorians think every non eruvian mannish group uses quantity? It is a Tolkien theme that good nations outclass evil ones and for the Wainriders to win they had to have superior numbers with this consistency in Tolkien's work. Dude sure Tolkien made a few factions/people rely on Quantity rather than Quality but what is it with u that ur such a Gondorian/Good factions fangirl that u dont even open your eyes for Godsake I mean Rhuns factions were very powerful and skilled some were even more skilled than Gondor in battle just because Tolkien describes 1 faction as using Quantity doesnt mean u should claim the all of the evil men are weak and cant face Gondor. An entire battalion was wiped out by one company of ithilien rangers, what about fangirlism are you talking about? Those were haradrim, they are weak. Hes talking about the Easterlings and Wainriders being strong warriors. Saying "Wainriders are weak because some haradrim got killed" doesnt help your argument. (and werent there like 200 or something rangers?) Whenever Rhun and Gondor fight a war Gondor destroys Rhun, the Balchoth went nearly extinct the last time they fought with Gondor, how is Rhun superior to Gondor agian then?

What about the Wainriders. Well rhun had only 2 real wars with Gondor. Rhun came close to victory the first time and would of won had they been prepared for an assualt. I'll agree that Gondor might be stronger than Rhun but Rhun is definitely more powerful than Dale or Rohan. With the new semi-canon lore and factions Rhun will most likely be equal in strength and skill to Gondor. Everytime any nation goes to war with Gondor they nearly go extinct and/or get annexed, also Rhun was never equal to Gondor, not even Arnor was, the Dunedain will always be superior to other kingdoms of men because of the blessing of the Valar.