Board Thread:General Mod Discussion/@comment-31907131-20170503081011/@comment-30563719-20170504204502

Thindithron the Great wrote:

Gruk wrote:

Thindithron the Great wrote:

Gruk wrote:

Thindithron the Great wrote:

AlteOgre wrote: @Thindithron: Gruk does in fact know more than most if us as he is a core member of the mod team. So, when he states something, trust that he does it to convey relevant information. It's at his own discretion to convince us or confuse us. :^) I know of Gruk's part in the mod. Whether his statement was true or not, his comment was unnecessary. This is not a debate about whether mithril weapons will be removed, but whether they should be removed! Gruk's comment essentially shut down all further discussion on this topic. If we can't discuss, we can't change the modders' minds. And honestly, if the mod team are so set in their ways, how do they expect the mod to improve? Unnecessary? No, I was just being honest. We are not going to remove mithril weapons, just becouse lore states they didn't exist (although I don't see why not, a steel core could be used to add weight) . If I really were to stop you from discussing, I would just close this thread and be done with it. Discuss whatever you want, but it's us, who make this mod and we decide what is good and what is not. You were being honest? Oh, it was just a completely unnecessary honest statement, then, which discouraged further discussion because people now knew it was already decided, but without any actual reason for the decision.

Besides, you obviously didn't comprehend my argument. It was not 'just because lore states they didn't exist'. You have not shown that you are knowledgeable on the subject. You have not made any valuable point here. Actually revealing the mod team's reasons for the decision, as Mevans often does, would have been extremely useful. Then we could have pointed out possible flaws and alternatives. But no! You decided to just leave the decision, not the reasoning.

Mithril is the top-tier material, a reward for the players, who play long enough to acquire it. It's very much like vanilla diamonds. And I really don't see why we need to give you reasons for not removing something anyway.

Didn't comprehend your argument? Your arguments are primarly based on lore. Yes, you metioned "balance", but you didn't say anything about how it helps to balance the mod, that's just empty statement. This thread is basically a "lore rant", disguised as "try to balance the mod". It isn't. The balance thing was a side note, not the main purpose of the thread. My whole argument was a side note, not the main purpose of the thread. The thread's purpose is to learn people's opinions on the matter at hand. This is why the thread is not on the suggestions forum board. It's just a discussion about it, not a suggestion to remove it.

You're quite right, mithril in the mod is very much like diamonds. Maybe it should be less like diamonds, since it is mithril. I am not an expert on this mod, but isn't it supposed to be as much like Middle-Earth as possible? If there is no compelling reason for keeping mithril weapons other than 'I really don't see why we need to give you reasons for not removing something anyway' then removal is the obvious choice. Unless you have, say, an actual reason? I don't understand your logic. You got your reason, what else do you want? And why would it be "less like diamonds", this is a minecraft mod, if you are looking for something more lore-focused, then maybe it's time to look for something deeper than games. This entire discussion fails to provide any valid reasons why removal of mithril weapons improves the mod.

Oh... and you want people's opinion, yet you don't care about people ranting about their lost mithril. Ironic.