Board Thread:General Mod Discussion/@comment-25841881-20161120164349/@comment-25841881-20161120170301

Obsidianman wrote: The world of Middle Earth is something like 500,000 blocks from top to bottom and 400,000 blocks wide side to side without including the sea. There are times when you are mining, exploring the sea looking for underwater elven ruins, finding new islands, going across Rhun, etc. that just necessitate waypoints that are nowhere near the mod waypoints. A base in the Misties along with several branch mines can use up 3-4 easily as you make progress. Also on servers you set up waypoints near a friend's base, near an enemy's base, etc. Even with 70 or so that becomes bit of a challenge but at least as a reward for doing hundreds of achievements it was something worth working for. Now you do almost 400 achievements and get only 40 waypoints to cover the entire world?

Are you supposed to now make the trip from ME to Meneltarma with no waypoints? Are new players who are limited to only 3 waypoints at the start going to find that too frustrating and just give up? At least with the old formula of 5 to start and 1 per 5 achievements it allowed new people to get a better start with the mod. Now the same new player has to begin with 2 fewer waypoints and has to complete double the achivements (in case nobody noticed the new way has been changed to 3 starting waypoints and 1 new custom WP for every 10 achievements completed).

I could turn the question around: why do we need to unsmelt goblets? why unsmelt anything when iron or other ores are plentiful in the Red Mountains? Players have expectations that certain rules are going to be consistent.

Imagine the outrage if suddenly the durability of mithril equipment was cut in half.

Comparing what you can do in SP to the limitation of the typical server and you'll see why this is a disasterous move. Why do I need waypoints in SP when I can just hit GM1? But we can't do that on a server, can we? You are right, we can't go to creative on most servers.. But you don't need to. Why are you using exclusively FTs for commonplace travel? What good are any builds if you just teleport past them? If you make a system of roads, it is very easy to travel places without using large amounts of FTs.. Wearing scout armour, and without jumping, you can go at 7.857 blocks every second. That allows you to go 1414.26 blocks in 3 minutes, which is the minimum FT cooldown. That means you can have fully trained FT points spaced at 2800 blocks apart, and still be able to reach any point along your road within 3 minutes. That's if you're just walking.. If you take advantage of horses, you can go at faster speeds of around 15 blocks per second. With 15 blocks per second, you can go 2700 blocks before the fully-trained FT cooldown runs out. That means 5400 blocks pet FT point.. Then there's the fact that you shouldn't be trying to cover the entire world. You can just cover places of interest, where you actively go. Anywhere else, you could do a bit of an RP-break, like Fast Travel is, and be able to go 21600 blocks in an FT cooldown, using a Nether road system and a horse. You may have 60 significant places that you normally would set an FT at.. But how many of those do you really need instant access to? If it takes you a minute to enter the Nether from Middle-earth, and vice versa, you can have an FT 21600 blocks away, and still be there in 5 minutes. Why do you need to have instant access to more than 20 points? You don't need to span the entirety of the world.. And if you did, it'd be quite easy if you effectively used a Nether highway. You could have FT points placed 40,000 blocks apart. All of Middle-Earth would be taken care of, because of the FT point density there, and you'd be left with Rhun and Harad. Harad would only need a few FT points placed, since it has good coverage with the existing FTs at borders and in the Jungle. And you can easily still use an FT when traveling to Meneltarma, or other such places. You can easily reassign 1 FT from your global network as a traveling frontier.