Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-26295802-20160321234711/@comment-25012056-20160606230009

High King Ithilion wrote: LOTRGuy wrote: High Prince Imrahil wrote: High King Ithilion wrote: Faramir said "We might make the enemy pay 10 times our losses for the crossing, yet rue the exchange." Obviously, he means that his men can take doen orcs by the boatload. Now, they are in defesive works, but still, it shows that orcs are weak. No, he's saying that it's totally futile, and saying "Even if we were able to make the enemy pay ten times, which obviously isn't going to happen, it still wouldn't work out in our favor" Exactly!

Orcs are not weak according to many sources. I agree that the more powerful evil creatures are Morgul, Wild-Men, Etc., but here's the point: Orcs show no sign of weakness. Sure, they are discouraged alot, but they are NOT weak. They are strong, and I would say that these orcs could kill a Dwarf 1v1. And Elves are like 1.75 times the power of a dwarf. So elves do have the chance of death by orcs in a 1v1 situation. Ithilion is just afraid to admit that he hates orcs too much to accept their power.

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Look, guys. Uruks are stated many times to be the strength of a man. Not an elf, not a dwarf, a man. A Gondorian, so a strong man, but still a man. And orcs are weaker than Uruks, so they are obviusly quite weak. The orcs almost always won due to outnumbering the enemy. Name me one time when they were victorious and had less men. See?

The siege of Minas Ithil. There were nowhere near enough orcs in Mordor to equal the men of the city. The Nazgûl just terrorized them into besieging the city until they were starved enough to demolish.

Gen. Grievous1138 (admin) comlink 23:00, June 6, 2016 (UTC)