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High King Ithilion wrote: Gen. Grievous1138 wrote:

High King Ithilion wrote: That directly contradicts the statement that Mithril was "found in Moria alone of all the world". Seeing as we have a direct denial of that claim, any inference, no matter how valid, is incorrect.

In any case, I am sure Gimli could scrounge enough Mithril, perhaps as a gift from Dain to Elessar, to help rebuild the gates-especially as they were made of *mithril and steel*, not pure Mithril.

Ithilion, Discussions Moderator (Auta i lómë) 23:24, April 21, 2017 (UTC) It would be one of many times Tolkien has contradicted himself. The gates of Minas Tirith are large enough that the amount of mithril needed to reinforce the steel would be more than a few heirlooms, and would be priceless anyway. The dwarves did not have much of it, and it's hinted at that they shared none of it after Moria's fall. Besides, Númenór had helmets of mithril for their elite despite having no contact with the dwarves.

Gen. Grievous1138 (LOTR Mod Wiki Admin) comlink 02:52, April 22, 2017 (UTC) And in such cases, we go with the *clear* lore. That is, there was no mithril outside of Khazad-dum. Although, we do know it was found on Numenor. Therefore, it is easy to postulate, without breaking lore, that in Minas Tirith were kept some stash of mithril from Numenor itself. That would be where the helments of mithril came from, and perhaps some of the material used for the gate, which would still be predominantly steel.

Ithilion, Discussions Moderator (Auta i lómë) 03:17, April 22, 2017 (UTC)

It would still take quite a bit of mithril to make the mithril in the gate useful. Whatever mithril they had in Gondor was likely an heirloom. People don't just melt that stuff down to make a gate, especially not dwarves, the greediest group in Middle-Earth, or Gondorians, who were so wrapped up in their own history that they would become nearly as greedy as dwarves when it came to remnants of their past. It makes zero sense. And if mithril was found on Numenor - which it was, beyond a doubt - then Gandalf's statement is already wrong. I don't find it unlikely for small veins to be found in the rest of the Misties or in the Whites, just not on the scale of Moria.

Gen. Grievous1138 (LOTR Mod Wiki Admin) comlink 14:00, April 22, 2017 (UTC)