Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-27324018-20151211222735/@comment-25012056-20160414101430

VulcanForge wrote: You guys continue to think that size is all. The Federation ships are far more maneuverable than Star Destroyers. And their weapons are far more powerful. Do you want to know why Star Trek ships are destroyed so easily? It's because the weapons are far superior to the shielding involved. And yet we see Star Destroyers pulverized by some asteroids in TESB whereas a Galaxy-class star cruiser can deflect them up to several kilometres ahead-with the NAVIGATIONAL shields. One phaser blast from a Federation ship would easily penetrate a Star Destroyer's shields, and would most likely be aimed better too. The Death Star has to rotate at a certain point to be able to fire on a starship, but we can see that warp drive enables you to go to FTL speed with neither a hyperspace conduit nor a problem with "mass shadows." Imperial sensor technology was so pitiful, it couldn't even detect the Millenium Falcon on the back of a Star Destroyer command section. A Galaxy-class starship could warp down from Warp 6, fire some photon torpedoes at the Death Star's exhaust vent (who needs schematics when you have multiple dedicated sensor arrays?), and even have them go right on target to the core without even scraping the walls. In fact, the photon torpedoes have a built in warp sustainer coil, so they maintain momentum from the ship they're on. Could the Imps stop a torpedo coming in at 200+ c? As for the statement about a photon torpedo bouncing off a Star Destroyer's hull, that's hardly a logical statement since we clearly see an A-wing fighter penetrate a Star Destroyer's shields and smash into the command center in ROTJ. And before that, you see TWO (or was it one?) starfighters take out an entire Star Destroyer's shield generators.

This is the Federation that creates new life-forms by accident. How hard would it be to clone ysalamiri? Even midi-chlorians? Every red-shirt with a count higher than Yoda's...Vader would look like a laughing stock.

No federation pilot could get proton torpedoes in a meter-wide hole from that distance. The second Death Star doesn't have any weak point. Attempting to blow that up would be like trying to dig down to rock in a desert with chopsticks.

And with Starkiller Base, you don't need to even enter hyperspace. (Well, the blasts do, but that doesn't matter.) One blast will destroy entire systems from afar. After the destruction of all of its major planets, the Federation would be running around trying to get a new head for a burnt out, crippled government. And I haven't even brought up Malevolence yet.

The Malevolence was a massive dreadnought that was able to disable an entire fleet of Star Destroyers with a single blast. Ion cannons mentioned in Star Wars not only have the concentrated strength to puncture almost all forms of energy shields, due to the nature of the ions (and would likely be able to puncture Federation shields, too.) The nature of the ions is such that, while blasts don't do much damage, they simply keep on adding energy to the shield until the generator short-circuts due to an overflow; as such, the Federation shields would be decimated after ten seconds of sustained ion fire.

The Malevolence takes this beyond the next level. Most of the massive ship is dedicated to running two immense ion cannons. These ion cannons collect a ton of ionic energy, and then channel it into a massive shockwave that is powerful enough to knock out all power systems on an entire fleet of Star Destroyers, and likely a Federation fleet too. This cannon can also fire from around ten times the maximum range of the average turbolaser (which definitely is out of range for Fed ships) due to the fact that it takes a long time for the shockwave to expand enough to disperse. After the Federation fleet is disabled, Malevolence could come in close and decimate the defenseless ships with an obscene amount of turbolasers and similar weapons. And if it matters, Malevolence is also equipped with retrofiited droid transports, which are designed to seek out and destroy escape pods (since even with no power escape pods can launch in SW, if those inside can remove the magnetic clamps.) Which shows the greatest weapon of the Malevolence: fear. We just destroyed an entire fleet, no survivors, with no sign of an enemy ship of anything. That kills morale like nothing else.

Gen. Grievous1138 (admin) comlink 10:14, April 14, 2016 (UTC)