Board Thread:Suggestions forum/@comment-25661985-20160103014448/@comment-25661985-20160103112135

The Lord of Minas Morgul wrote: Wargaz cc wrote: The Lord of Minas Morgul wrote: By that logic Nan Curunír should be fair and green, and the Uruks shouldn't even exist yet!!! No, the mod started at S.R. 1401 Bilbo's birthday feast, and Saruman begins breeding Orcs in S.R. 1390. He had plenty of time to build an army in 11 years. But the Gundabad Uruks never exist in entire history of middle-earth! My point still stands about Nan Curunír. If Gandalf had seen any sign of devastation at Isengard, he would have been much more cautious.

I forgot, but did Saruman summon Radagast to Isengard, or did Saruman visit Radagast when he sent him to tell Gandalf to go to Isengard? There was no mention of the way they contacted each other. Saruman sent Radagast to seek Gandalf out, but they didn't have to meet each other. Suruman could send a message by birds since Radagast decided to aid his search with birds and beasts.

For Gandalf, he did see devastation without any doubt. Have you heard of APEC blue? During APEC China 2014, the sky of Beijing was blue sky, but actually it used to be polluted in most of the year. Saruman could find arrive of Gandalf by his animal spies and prepare for it, shutting off forges. However, the sky of Nan Curunír still were gloomy most of the time, when Gandalf was arrested, those machines started running as usual, so Gandalf and players would see that smoke.