Board Thread:Suggestions forum/@comment-27200931-20170510192310/@comment-26149161-20170514134335

Gen. Grievous1138 wrote:

Dragonovith wrote: "'Authority is not given to you, Steward of Gondor, to order the hour of your death,' answered Gandalf. 'And only the heathen kings, under the domination of the Dark Power, did thus, slaying themselves in pride and despair, murdering their kin to ease their own death.'"

The meaning of heathen (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/heathen):


 * 1 - (in historical contexts) an individual of a people that do not acknowledge the God of the Bible; a person who is neither a Jew, Christian, nor Muslim; a pagan.
 * 2 - Informal. an irreligious, uncultured, or uncivilized person.
 * 3 - of or relating to heathens; pagan.
 * 4 - Informal. irreligious, uncultured, or uncivilized.

It's clear that Tolkien meant that the kings, those who serve Sauron, are barbaric. One does not simply make an entire continent of factions with identical styles to fit a vague quote.

Gen. Grievous1138 (LOTR Mod Wiki Admin) comlink 13:27, May 14, 2017 (UTC) Not identical, no, but they should still all have the somewhat barbaric qualities ascribed to them at various points in the book.

Ithilion, Discussions Moderator (Auta i lómë) 13:43, May 14, 2017 (UTC)