Board Thread:Suggestions forum/@comment-29212138-20170526182111/@comment-29773086-20170526215951

Dolgukhor wrote: U speak of corsairs and tbh

Castamir came with a navy of guess what "Men" not women makes sense for them to interbred

The King's Men had families Umbar was a city not a criminal depot of death like barad ru

Gondorians dont massacre whole cities

no one does... umbar is a large city like how rome didnt massacre all of Gaul

The Mouth of Sauron was NEVER stated to be from a community from Mordor and is most likely from the Haven of Umbar.

Hotly contested region? we know they fled from Umbar after the first attack.

Umbar was first taken by Gondor by Eärnil I, after the Black Númenóreans had become merged with the Men of Middle-Earth. Admittedly, their lords survived and fled. But after the second fall of Umbar, all inhabitants were apparently killed, and "Umbar was again lost, and fell into the hands of them Men of Harad."
 * We know this when they led the 35 year war* Yes they would have lost a lot of men during the siege but people were not sent to fight.