Board Thread:Suggestions forum/@comment-26339514-20160621204512/@comment-25012056-20160625002521

High King Ithilion wrote: I have several ideas for new orc species...

Mordor Uruks: An interim unit between Mordor Orcs and Black Uruks. They have 20 health but are quite cheap. Mordor orcs would be debuffed.

Snagae: A weak unit belonging to no specific faction, or having a specific variant for each faction. Gundabad, Dol Guldur, and Mordor orcs could all be renamed Snagae.

Dol Guldur Uruks: Heavy orcs of Dol Guldur. Same health and price as a Mordor Uruk.

Mordor Trackers: Light archers that wear Warg Fur armor. They switch between bows and daggers, but are weak.

Isengard Half-orcs: Replace Uruk-Hai. They have 22 health and wield pikes, hammers, and axes. Uruk-hai are debuffed to 20 health. However, both are cheap units and spawn relatively commonly.

Orc-Men Berserkers: Replace Berserkers. These powerful soldiers have a speed buff, 25 health, and wear heavy mail armor. They use great axes in combat. These are the soldiers who slew Theodred at the Fords of Isen. They are cheaper than Berserkers.

Ithilion, Discussions Moderator (Auta i lome) 02:06, June 23, 2016 (UTC)

You're certainly getting somewhere, although I think Uruks of Isengard should be kept at the same strength and that the berserkers should stay as-is. The only other thing is that I've always taken Goblins to represent the Snagae of Gundabad; but that's a debate for another thread. Here would be my orc-races, in theory and no particular order:


 * Gundabad Orcs (as in the current orcs)
 * Goblins/Gundabad Snagae
 * Gundabad Uruks (as in the elite)
 * Moria Orcs
 * Gundabad fighter-orcs (these would be the uruks per se)
 * Moria Uruks
 * Moria Scouts (sorta like the trackers)
 * Goblin Warriors
 * Moria Snagae
 * Hunter Orcs
 * Grey Mountains Orcs
 * Grey Mountains Uruks (this would include my proposed dragon-warriors)
 * Dol Guldur Orcs
 * Dol Guldur Snagae
 * Dol Guldur Uruks
 * Dol Guldur berserkers
 * Angmar Orcs
 * Angmar Snagae
 * Isengard Snagae
 * Isengard Uruks
 * Isengard Berserkers
 * Isengard Scouts
 * Isengard Half-orcs
 * Mordor Orcs
 * Mordor Snagae
 * Mordor Trackers
 * Mordor Uruks
 * Black Uruks
 * Morgul Orcs
 * Morgul Snagae
 * Morgul Warriors

So that's still a large number of groups that can kill each other.

Gen. Grievous1138 (admin) comlink 00:25, June 25, 2016 (UTC)