Thread:High King Ithilion/@comment-31308946-20170524212814/@comment-207.163.37.231-20170525175926

TheSquidychicken wrote: Campinator wrote:

TheSquidychicken wrote:

SamwiseFilmore wrote: Also think about how the bible came to us today; A bunch of fragments collected from Monestaries and places like that after the Middle ages (Yes, we do have religion to thank for modern society). Not just a cohesive piece of text. Original drafts would have been done while Judah was in exile in Babylon, and those of course would have been preserved by the Jews until Rome destroyed Jerusalem around 76 BCE. What existed was scattered around during the next 1200 years, rewritten, copied, and translated multiple times, before being collected to the Latin version that would have been used by the catholic churches during the renaissance. Then of course there was Martin Luther who basically got the bible out there in low german for people to read, and from there, it's translated into almost every language on the planet (true bestseller right there).

Basically, the bible has had so much happen to it over so long that I have a hard time believing that it's the word of God down to the last period. Not that there isn't valid stuff in there; There is, lots. It's just not quite so perfect.

The problem with Science vs Religion, is that they are fundamentally different. Science is based on what you can observe, while religion is based on what you believe to exist instead of what you can see.

But God said nothing would be changed so it is comepletely the same as when he wrote it. Also what about the dead sea scrolls? Your response to his makes no sense. He said, I believe, that we can't know if God really did write it, because it has such a jumbled history. You then responded to that claim by stating that the very entity whose existence is in question here must be real because he said so. This argument does not make sense to me. How can God prove the Bible if the Bible can't prove God?

In answer of your Q&A: What does that prove to me about Christianity being the best?
 * 1) Perhaps
 * 2) I play poker and blackjack, just with coins or sticks
 * 3) For sure
 * 4) Usually

Ok I meant the Bible is perfect (show me one mistake and ill change my mind) in it it says God is real and that he wrote the Bible through men. Other than that since we cant prove physically that God is real, since there is no tangible evidence except the Bible.

In answer to those who answered the little Q&A.

Ok. So your heart gives out. If you are right you die and are buried nothing is lost and nothing is gained. the world goes on and eventually people evolve.

If my heart gives out, and I am right about God, I go to heaven and live forever.

If you are wrong, then you die and stand in front of the judgement seat of Christ. You then have to go to hell to pay for your sins.

If I am wrong nothing happens I die and am buried, the world moves on and I lived my life as I deemed fit.

You are gambling with your life, I on the other hand am 100% safe.

You said you made mistakes, so is it not possible you are wrong about this?

If you said you dont realy gamble you are gambling with the most precious thing you have.

Your' life. 'So Christianity is technically the safest way to live. It may not be easy, but it will be worth it when I die.

And if you believe yourself to be a fairly good person do you mind if I ask some questions to find out? By no meas are you "100% safe." There are an infinite number of "posibilities" to "God's" nature. For all we know, the ancient egyptians were right, or maybe the creator of the universe approves of skeptisism and sends atheists to hevan instead of Christians. In my opinion, it's most likely that with a universe a vast as ours, if a supreme being exists he dosen't care about what tiny humans think on tiny Earth. When we assume what we have no way of knowing, we are bound to be wrong.