Board Thread:News and Announcements/@comment-25012056-20170711003730/@comment-26322120-20170714214329

Thindithron the Great wrote: I feel that it should be made at least partly clear on the Utumno page that though it is in the mod for gameplay purposes, it does not actually exist anymore. Currently the page is very unambiguous in saying that it does exist, and I believe that a little ambiguity would serve not to mislead players as to its actual state in lore, and assauge the annoyance of lore purists like myself. So we can continue to pretend it doesn't exist in the mod. I would, with your consent, Grievous, change the paragraph in question:

"Over millennia the ruins survived, far in the north beyond any that yet live. Very few even know of its continued existence, or even believe that it could have survived so long; much less could tell where it lies. But an explorer brave and resourceful enough can learn that it is not indeed a myth, nor was it ever completely destroyed. Of those who leap into the darkness below, next to none can hope to find a way out; but if any do go and live to tell the tale, it would surely be a tale of warning."

to:

"Over millennia some say the ruins survived, far in the north beyond any that yet live. Very few even entertain the notion of its continued existence; much less could tell where it lies. But an explorer brave and resourceful enough could discover whether or not it is indeed a myth, or if it was ever completely destroyed. Of those who leap into the darkness below, next to none can hope to find a way out; but if any do go and live to tell the tale, it would surely be a tale of warning." Tbh, I like Thindothron's edit, not because it implies that Utumno should not exist in the mod, but because it fits nicely with the atmosphere of mystery and uncertainty I believe you were trying to create when you wrote the history. Regardless, I don't think it really matters either way.