Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-26295802-20160321234711/@comment-25012056-20160710125859

Gorbag12 wrote: High King Ithilion wrote: The Lord of Minas Morgul wrote: Is there a canon place that mentions Orcs being made from Elves? Because I'm in te peocess of reading the Silmarillion, and right now it looks to me like they were just a mockery. Later on in his life, Tolkien decided it was most likely that Orcs were drawn from the Kindred of Men, corrupted and tortured in a similar manner to how people think the Elves were. He also stated the possibility of them being sentient beasts, or possibly (but unlikely) Elves.

Ithilion, Discussions Moderator (Auta i lome) 13:22, July 4, 2016 (UTC) However, bolg was very old, older than of normal human beeing, i believe they are elvish breath, because they exist before the first humans awake. These elves were most likely Avari

In addition, it is hinted that Azog himself is at least over four hundred years old at the time of his death.

Gen. Grievous1138 (admin) comlink 12:58, July 10, 2016 (UTC)