User blog comment:Calbeius or Urukgoth/A Calbeius Original: The Explanation of Evil in the Fourth Age/@comment-27477735-20160103174436/@comment-27718380-20160103183321

Take Azog as an example. They did, but the leader was always scared of everything, like the orcs themselves were. It was only the fear of such a 'master' that made them fight. 'Master' here refers more to someone who is truly powerful, than a leader.