Board Thread:Suggestions forum/@comment-27200931-20170510192310/@comment-29212138-20170511141553

Dr Frankus wrote: 207.197.8.2 wrote: Dr Frankus wrote: Dragonovith wrote: In my opinion the Easterlings of Rhúdel aren't as "barbaric" as the books pictures them. Not that we have a lot of info on the Easterlings, but I always imagined them being more evil than they currently are in the mod. Read first indeed. Slavery is evil in middle earth, they are right, you implied them being evil. To increase the "evilness" of the Easterlings, I suggest this: change Easterling Farmhands to Easterling Slaves.

Is there a better way to say "These guys here are bad!" than showing fields being tended by oppressed slaves? Well, there is, but in the case of the mod, slavery is also a very good way to show the player that a faction is evil. As evil as keeping slaves might seem- lots of countries did it throughout the ancient and medieval ages- even 'enslaving' their own people! (Maybe not exactly called 'slaves', but serfs are nearly identical anyway..) wouldn't really doubt it if some of the 'Good' M.E. countries kept slaves themselves... stares down Rohan and Gondor However, while I do agree that making the 'farmhands' slaves.. where would they come from? Definetly not Gondor, since they haven't been in open conflict yet, and Dale has no occupied land from Rhun- Dorwinion might work, but Rhun and them are neutral and perhaps even have trade among each other, and I believe that enslaving someone's people would resort to open conflict.

The current textures make it seem as though they are simply farmers, and with the current type of Civilization that the Golden Khaganate has, having willing farmers and farmhands / serfs in service doesn't seem implausible.

I honestly don't think you should make it so that it seems as though 'These guys here are bad!' with ANY human faction- since they really aren't, im sure your familiar with the quote by Samwise on the dead southron.

The Easterling were formerly enslaved by Numenoreans (probably making them extremely icky about that stuff, seeing as that would make their government hypocrites and would make the population a lot less willing to do what the government wants them to do), and have been plotting revenge on Gondor and Arnor ever since (except for the fact that if they didn't take revenge on Gondor they would have remained a prosperous and massively populous nation) Do you guys even LotR? Gondor would never keep slaves, nor would Rohan. Middle Earth is black and white. Rohan and Gondor were too noble to do that. Gondor has only taken over in Rhun and Harad before because they attacked them, and don't give me the, "Gondor attacked first!" crap. Numenor did, when it was being corrupted by Sauron. See the twist of irony here? Sauron had the Numenoreans attack and enslave Harad and Rhun, just to stir up tensions. So when the good faithful, who never performed such attrocities, made Gondor and Arnor, the problem was that Rhun and Harad saw this as just a continuation of the evil Numenoreans, not the Kingdoms of the Faithful. Stop saying Gondor is evil, it isn't. Period. I never said Gondor is evil, reread what I have said before you rant.

I only specified that if any 'good' country would have slaves, it would be them simply because of their situation.

Also- never said that I was on the side of the easterlings, I simply mentioned that the reason for Harad and Rhun's aggression to Gondor was because of the Numenoreans.