Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-23.229.16.227-20170804232732/@comment-26553378-20170806024810

Saws311 wrote: Gen. Grievous1138 wrote:

LordArvedui wrote:

Gen. Grievous1138 wrote: Firstly - Everyone should know that the poster of this thread has an IP along the pattern that the Jagex troll has been using, and that I suspected from thw start that this thread was posted by him. My response was a joke, and I was purely experimenting to see how he would respond. I second what Samwise said - and what MePlayzGamez added to it.

In seriousness, I basically disagree with nearly all of Arvedui's points xP

Let's start with guns, and dispel once and for all this "good guy with a gun" myth. It is just that: a myth. There were multiple people with guns in the Pulse nightclub when gunfire broke out - but it did nobody any good. There is no time to react and no room for a clear shot in such a situation, or really in any situation where there's a terrorist attack. In nearly all situations of terrorism, you don't know what's happening until someone dies - at which point everyone panics, and it's impossible to get a shot through the crowd at the attackers. And it does nobody any good in a van attack: you can shoot the driver, but you don't know if he's going to stop or not until you're too late. And shooting the driver does nothing anyway: the van will keep going and mow into the crowd, and unlike in Michael Bay movies there's no way you're gonna blow the van up with a firearm. The other tired aargument that I keep hearing is that restricting guns won't stop people from buying them on the black market or usiing something else. Correct - but it will sure as hell slow them down and may even dissuade some people froom carrying out attacks at all. Nobody, nobody that's not military needs a fucking assault rifle for anything. When trying to swat a fly, you don't call in an airstrike. Same principle. As it is right now in many US states people on the no-fly list or the fucking FBI terrorist watchlist can purchase guns. That's ridiculous. I don't think guns should be banned - I think they need restriction. And why not? People have pointed out the many ways to kill people: Timothy McVeigh used fertilizer, the 9/11 hijackers used airplanes, etc. Except now fertilizer is restricted so that the Oklaholma City Bombing cannot be replicated, airplanes have far tighter security, and guns, which have been used to kills far, far more people in attacks than anything else combined, can be purchased by people considered too dangerous to board an airplane. That makes no fucking sense. The recent terrorist attacks, which used vans and knives, were deadly, yes - but estimated casualties would have been exponentially higher if the attackers had access to guns.

Gen. Grievous1138 (LOTR Mod Wiki Admin) comlink 14:06, August 5, 2017 (UTC) Did you, a guy who enjoys communism, actually expect to agree with a hardcore republican? And wether other people use guns wrong or not I'm keeping mine. Only fools think that everyone will use them wrong. Of course not. And I don't enjoy communism, I enjoy communist memes.

I more or less agree. Don't get me wrong: I've used guns and believe in a right to them to a degree. I just believe in background checks, restrictions, and bans on certain high-power guns.

Gen. Grievous1138 (LOTR Mod Wiki Admin) comlink 00:08, August 6, 2017 (UTC) I definitely agree with you Grievous. I especially like going out to the range every once in a while, it's a lot of fun. Or, you could go with what canada or the UK or whereever it is does it, and make it so you can only get them from ranges in a secure location after a background check.