Board Thread:Suggestions forum/@comment-29212138-20170526182111/@comment-26149161-20170527160714

They were not pissed off Gondorians. They were rebels who sided with Sauron. And if you're seriously going to go against what Tolkien EXPLICITLY STATED, then there's really no point in this debate.

"The sons of Kastamir and others of his kin, having fled from Gondor in 1447, set up a small kingdom in Umbar, and there made a fortified haven. They never ceased to make war upon Gondor, attacking its ships and coasts when they had opportunity. But they married women of the Harad and had in three generations lost most of their Numenorean blood; but they did not forget their feud with the house of Eldakar."

Ithilion, Discussions Moderator (Auta i lómë) 16:07, May 27, 2017 (UTC)