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High King Ithilion wrote: Still, there wouldn't be that many orcs, wargs, and balrogs down there. Otherwise, why wouldn't they come out and declare their own realm?

Also, the corrupted elves are rather off, seeing as Tolkien eventually decided Orcs were bred from various kinds of Men....

Ithilion, Discussions Moderator (Auta i lómë) 01:38, April 28, 2017 (UTC) Yes maybe when men woke up, but orcs appear long before that during the years of the trees when Feanor fought them on his way to Angband in the Year of the Tree's 1497. If I'm wrong please tell me I would like to know more.