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High King Ithilion wrote: The Lord of Minas Morgul wrote: Is there a canon place that mentions Orcs being made from Elves? Because I'm in te peocess of reading the Silmarillion, and right now it looks to me like they were just a mockery. Later on in his life, Tolkien decided it was most likely that Orcs were drawn from the Kindred of Men, corrupted and tortured in a similar manner to how people think the Elves were. He also stated the possibility of them being sentient beasts, or possibly (but unlikely) Elves.

Ithilion, Discussions Moderator (Auta i lome) 13:22, July 4, 2016 (UTC) However, bolg was very old, older than of normal human beeing, i believe they are elvish breath, because they exist before the first humans awake. These elves were most likely Avari