Board Thread:General Mod Discussion/@comment-26841670-20180310184629/@comment-29773086-20180310231013

Gandalf II wrote: The auto closing doors, the near indestructible doors, the high tier modifiers (maybe there could be an imprived enduring modifier, for weapons that never rust, or like the harps (is that the right word for the musical instrument ? ) in Erebor that were still good after many years), the guardian-like door that would be like the statues at the tower of Cirirh Ungol,... All of these would represent the magic.

And this is not race selection, one race could tell you some secrets (the alignement requirement is for that), but you could also learn by yourself, even if the said race is your ennemy. You are mot limited in only one skill tree, I do mot see how this is race-selection.

And for the immersion-breaking, I thought the skill tree would improve the immersion, and not destroy it. After all, you are not supposed to be a Vala or an Istarii that knows many things, and you have to learn them, I was thinking the skill tree would represent this learning. 1- The things that you mention can be added without a skill tree.

2- This could be said to be a form of race selection, because the only way anyone would be able to learn these things is if they were a member of the race. The Dwarves would not teach any Man the secret of how to shape mithril into weapons; the Quendi would not tell of the making of palantíri (if they even know anymore- the seven stones were created in ancient times), the Yrch would not magically grant the ability to ignore hazardous plants like the Morgul Flower, etc. If these are being taught to a Man, it's immersion and lore breaking; if you become that race to learn the skills, it's race selection.

3- Skill trees are immersion breaking for obvious reasons. Other immersion breaking things exist, like the alignment bar, so that the mod is playable as a game, but I think it would be unnecessary and out of place to have a skill tree in-game implemented like the vanilla achievement system or even like the mod's achievement system. Especially since it's impossible to learn several of the skills you suggest without being a member of their race.