Board Thread:General Mod Discussion/@comment-26088681-20171011203808/@comment-26815144-20171016204750

Gen. Grievous1138 wrote:

Legoarmy505 wrote:

Gen. Grievous1138 wrote:

Legoarmy505 wrote: First 5 years: In the East proclaiming his return, installing Khamul as the Leader of rhudel. Getting the wainriders and lettign the muster.

Next year: sending messagers to mordor to start gathering orcs.

Years 7-10: getting the gorcs around Barad-dur's alliegance, killing those that don't. Sending men to get the Easterlings from the Uttermost East.

Years: 10-30: Forifying Barad-dur whilst getting more orcs. Sending messagers to Harad to gain support. Starting to unife the tribes through diplomacy and wars.

Years 30-50: Breeding new armies, experimenting with Uruk-Hai. Fortifying outlying forts and fixing them. Securing all of Harad (not including tauredain) and then more of Rhun (Not including Free Easterlings)

Year 50-60: Sending word to the Western tribes to start rebuilding from their fall in the BOFA. More like:


 * TA 2951: Sauron returns, refounds Mordor, sends three Nazgûl to DG, has the others get to work rebuilding Mordor, speeds up reconstruction of Barad-dûr, makes Barad-dûr the capital of Mordor again, begins to regather armies.
 * TA 2951-2954: Sauron's Road from Barad-dûr to Mount Doom rebuilt, Morgul-Road from Minas Morgul to Mount Doom built, Orcs gather in Mordor by the thousands, Easterlings and Haradrim are reminded of where their loyalties lie, Mount Doom erupts once more.
 * TA 2952-2962: Udûn is rebuilt, the Black Gate is raised between the Towers of the Teeth, the forts of Carach Angren are made, the mountains are delved with tunnels, holds, and armories, and the vale is made into a great mustering ground.
 * TA 2960-2965: Thaurband is rebuilt, the Núrnen Ports are build, and an influx of slaves from tributary nations makes Núrn more efficient than ever before.
 * TA 2965-2975: The old fortresses of Seregost and Amon Angren are reinforced, Morigost is expanded and garrisoned, and Nargroth is built.
 * TA 2975-2985: The Vale of the Fell Beasts and Nan Ungol are discovered and fortified.
 * TA 2985-3000: Lithlad is fortified, the roads east are repaired, the Eastern Guard is built, the Olog-hai are bred in the Ered Lithui.
 * TA 3000: Barad-dûr is completed, and the armies of Mordor are now nearly ready for war.

Gen. Grievous1138 (LOTR Mod Wiki Admin) comlink 13:13, October 15, 2017 (UTC) It would take longer to get the South and East to support him. Men aren't like orcs, many in the East were under the influence of the Blues and it would take a long time to muster the other Easterlings (maybe except Rhudel) because of this. The Haradrim would have lost contact with Southron and would have just kept to themselves. Plus there would be many wars in the East and South that Sauron would have to diffuse before they would muster before him. I know that they worshipped him but I mean, he was away for a long time and there is a high chance of other religions coming into there. Of course Sauron would then have to crush these and persecute the followers. That's not really all that true. The Free Easterlings were rebels, and while they hindered Sauron's designs they were very few in number - nearly all the Easterlings were thoroughly evil and worshipped Sauron, as did the Southrons. Rhúdel was the strongest power in Rhûn by a considerable margin, and both they and the Wainriders had the strength to both keep the Free Easterlings at bay and also send aid to Mordor, with which they were still strongly in league and completely under the will of Sauron. The men of Hatholwaith were evil too, and sent troops of the Battle of the Pelennor. All the Southrons were in league with and worshipped Sauron and would have joined him as soon as he declared himself again in hatred for Sauron. The Moredain did indeed have contact with the Southrons - hell, they have mercenaries working for them - and would also be ready to answer Sauron's call. The Half-Trolls were Sauron's creation and needed no persuasion.

Gen. Grievous1138 (LOTR Mod Wiki Admin) comlink 10:16, October 16, 2017 (UTC) The Free Easterlings were considerably strong as without them the West would have been overwhelmed by the forces of the East. Also, if an Italian walked up to you and proclaimed Jesus returned to the world, you would believe him? Its not that they don't believe in him, its that some won't believe his return. Especially the clergy as they would likely lose alot of their power to the military as they are acting out Sauron's will. Plus just because you have the same religion as someone doesn't mean you won't fight them. The way I see it, the more powerful states in Harad would have gone to the call of Sauron immediately, or at least after a few exchanges in messagers to be sure they aren't sending troops north for some orc warlord pretending to be Sauron. However, they would take time to settle out all the their differences with the other big kingdoms. Then in the smaller states, it would take some time as they might be more skepitcal as rumours would have been spread and given the people time to think.The clergy would try to denouce it as they would be able to retain more power without Sauron actually returning. blah blah blah, after a year or 2 of diplomacy between these. Overall it might take a few years for Harad and with Rhun, though it would have a majority support quite quickly, getting troops and supplies west would be very hard for those in Harhudor and the Uttermost East.