Thread:High King Ithilion/@comment-33185350-20171125151204/@comment-26149161-20171125155149

Sir Lazuli wrote: Hey Ithilion I was going through the Dale (Faction) page and noticed this in the history:

“The people lived a poor, impoverished existence until the coming of Thorin Oakenshield, who promised the Men a share in the wealth of Erebor. They aided his passage across the Lake. But what they recieved in return was dragon-fire and ruin: Smaug came from Erebor and burnt Lake-town. But even as the town fell into ruin, Bard of the line of Girion, captain of the guard, shot Smaug with his black arrow. Smaug fell, and his corpse sank in the water.”

It just seems like it’s based a little too much off the storyline in the Hobbit movies, and not the book. Here’s why:

- I don’t think Thorin ever explicitly promises wealth to the Lake-men like he does in the movies. Though it is expected because they aid him. He just claims to restore the kingdom, and the men get excited from songs. The wording here is very similar to the movies.

- I am pretty sure the sentence about dragon-fire and ruin is almost verbatim from a line in the movies.

- In the book Lake-town’s warriors were fighting with Bard, and while this doesn’t say that didn’t happen, it implies that Bard was the only one giving Smaug any challenge (as it was in the movies). And for such an important event Smaug’s attack could have a few more sentences describing it and exactly why it happened.

I can fix this, I just wanted to check and see what you think.

Feel free to change it! It could definitely use the work.

Ithilion, Discussions Moderator (Auta i lómë)