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Recneps wrote: Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote: Recneps wrote: Maltalidenta Kwuitidherali wrote: Recneps wrote: High King Ithilion wrote: We do know it was made by Tolkien, and it is 100% canon. I wrote a blog on it a while back.

Ithilion, Discussions Moderator (Auta i lome) 00:56, July 21, 2016 (UTC) The map never says that Mumakil are just Elephants.. It says that Elephants appeared in the Pelennor Fields battle, but not that they were Mumakil.. Well, if it was elephants and not Mûmakil, that changes things, don't you think? You just entirely misread what I said. It says that there are Elephants. Not that the Elephants are Mumakil. Elephants could be an entirely separate animal brought by the Haradrim. And, also, the map has the Elephants placed in the Desert, leading me to believe that they are not Asian Elephants, but rather African Bush Elephants. I did not misread, I pointed out how your example was flawed. There is no reasonable example to use here. However, it still very much holds true that your argument relies on what seems to be a misconception about just how big these "Mûmakil" are. Even then, you call the foreign word for what seems to be the same animal a different species, because Hobbits saw them and reported them as larger than life? It's not an example of anything. I'm questioning the basis of your argument. You say that Mumakil are Elephants, because the map says so. The map doesn't say so. The map just says Elephants exist. I'm saying that the map shows evidence that elephants exist, and it's highly probable from the multitude of other evidence that Mûmakil are just elephants.