Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-33719810-20171122020843/@comment-31507215-20171205145727

KingTotalWar wrote:

Catfishperson wrote: Again, I'm no SW lore expert, but sometimes it seems the Force itself is described as an omnipotent conscience. If this is the case, surely it would intervene if it saw it's universe in danger of being "wished away by an intruder." The force itself is described as omnipitent, the Jedi order serves the “will of the force”, the force affects things, it doesn’t blow up continents, but it affects things in small ways, that can lead to massive effects, in other words the snowball effect. I think for this scenario, because these are two different universes, the power of Eru, and The Force, would cancel each other out. We even seenin Star Wars where The Dark Side of the force cancels out the Light Side, for this to be a fair comparison, I think we should work along those lines. The other thing, these are two entirely separate universes, or let’s say Galaxies. In the Yuzong Vong War (idk if I spelled it right and ik its not cannon anymore) the Vong were from a different galaxy, therefore they didn’t have medichorlions and the Jedi couldn’t use the force on them AS EFFECTIVLEY. There were still several times however when Jedi would become one with the force and be able to annhiliate them. As for Star Wars not having something to match Eru, the beings on Mortis are basically omnipitent, Abeloth is the Star Wars equivalent of Sauron, as it took, if I remember correctly, 8 of the most powerful force users to bring her down. In EU, Luke is literally the most powerful Jedi that has ever lived, and he even said she was at least 12 times more powerful than he was.

The latest comparison is putting all of lotr against all of Star Wars. That means Star Wars have omnipitent beings (Abeloth is still somewhat canon), people such as Palpatine, who was the incarnation of the dark side, etc, etc.

This comparison simply will not work if everyone wants to instantly go “but muh Eru destroying the universe.” You have to take some exceptions.

I’d say, in my own way of making it fair of course, Eru and the Force essentially cancel each other out. Eru did not create the force or anything in Star Wars, likewise nothing in Arda came from the force, so the force will not be as effective on them. If the Force cancels iteself out, it wouldn't cancel Eru out. In math-ish terms, (+1) + (+1) + (-1) = 1.

Plus, nothing in Star Wars works without the force, and you can't have Arda without Eru, so your logic doesn't really make sense.