Board Thread:Suggestions forum/@comment-27200931-20170404182839/@comment-27200931-20170405010801

Gen. Grievous1138 wrote: Dragonovith wrote: Gen. Grievous1138 wrote: Gundabad doesn't really need mid-grade Uruks IMO. A more uniform breed of orcs for the Mt. Gundabad area? Sure. Some subfacs? Definitely. But I don't think they're in need of Uruks tbh. The current Gundabad Uruks (or Gundabad Fell Uruks... eh, not sure about that name) are sufficient.

Isengard Uruks should get the same health as humans, not less. Otherwise, they'd just be normal Orcs. I also believe they should keep their current gear, to make them noticeably better than Snagae but still level with Men.

Black Uruks need to be much rarer. They're the Guard of Barad-dûr...

Gen. Grievous1138 (LOTR Mod Wiki Admin) comlink 21:09, April 4, 2017 (UTC) There's a big gap between Gundabad Orcs and Gundabad Uruks. Maybe Gundabad Large Orcs then? Gundabad Warriors?

I agree, they should have the same health as humans. About the gear, what do you think: 13 or 15 armor points? I think 13 for Uruks and 15 for Half-orcs.

I don't really know much about the Black Uruks, but I suppose I should agree with you about their rare-ness.

Isengarders should have current Uruk-level gear, while normal uruks should have High Elf-level gear, both with far decreased durability.

As for the Gundabad gap, I believe it should remain that way. The Uruks of Gundabad were of a "higher" breed altogether.

Gen. Grievous1138 (LOTR Mod Wiki Admin) comlink 00:00, April 5, 2017 (UTC) 1 - Alright.

2 - What about the Uruks of the Misty Mountains?

Eoros wrote: Evil and good are balanced as is. I don't like these suggestions about buffing and debuffing factions that don't need to be touched. I'm all for buffing Moredain, Tauredain, Dorwinion, but in general, we're pretty balanced as is.

Lol, I feel like I dislike every one of Dragonovith's suggestions... sorry bro :P Evil and Good? These two factions are unknown to me. Will Mevans add them in the next Beta? Now, Rohan and Isengard are not balanced. Let's break it down into stats:

> Dismounted Rohirrim

- 30 Coins

- 20 HP

- 13 armor points

> Mounted Rohirrim

- 50 Coins

- 20 HP

- 13 armor points

- Has a horse

> Uruk-hai

- 40 Coins

- 26 HP

- 17 armor points

Gundabad Uruks have a very strict list of biomes where they can spawn, while the Gundabad Orcs are the basic unit of the Gundabad faction. Now, that's not the case for Isengard, Uruk-hai are the basic unit of the faction. They spawn in great quantities and their stats are much higher than those from their Rohirrim enemies, and the hiring price between the two is basically negligible. That's why I'm proposing this suggestion: players from the Isengard faction would still have a strong unit to hire, meanwhile their basic unit would be on par with the Rohirrim, thus making the war between Isengard and Rohan much more balanced.

And if you read the thread I linked on the main post you'll be able to read the tests I done to see how they fared against each other. Result: Rohirrim trashed by Uruk-hai.