Hello all! Something that annoys me about the hobbit pipe is that it's only found in the Shire, and therefore you must travel there to get it. What I propose is that we rename Hobbit Pipe to simply Pipe and it would be found in the following factions: Erebor Blue Mountains Dale Gondor Rohan This would make the pipe more accesible to all factions, and make smoking more enjoyable. That concludes my suggestion.
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See, thats again, a fair bit of annoyance.
I go ahead, ask shamiir to go to a hobbit for a pipe. She has to go to the shire, FIND a hobbit bartender who is still alive in a bar which isnt bannered and the bartender which in't carted away.
Then, she buys the pipe, and has to wait the remaining time for cooldown travel, then tp all the way back to another waypoint, so I can go there too, so that she can throw over ONE ITEM, so I can pick it up and move away and both of us wait another 5-30 minutes to fast travel back to our own places and do our own thing. This is quite a process for ONE TINY ITEM.
See, but if it is found in gondor and the dwarven hills (as dwarves smoked it as well) I could instead go to a friendly land (Blue Mountains or Iron Hills) and get a pipe from a nice dwarf, as well as buy some very good quality armor, or just get it in Gondor as Im there almost every other day, stomping their precious soldiers into the ground
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Also, I normally never play on servers. On singleplayer it is extremely annoying to get that one simple item.
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I think it's logical that this item is only found in the Shire, but a crafting recipe would be nice actually, using a Hobbit CT, as well as the ability to reforge/repair using clay bars. Yes, Aragorn and Gandalf and Saruman and possibly Blue Mountains Dwarves all smoked, but they had traveled and had dealings with the Shire, as mentioned above, so I don't think it can be argued from lore. Just because something is difficult to obtain if you are from an enemy faction is not a valid argument to change that. FT cooldown times are a function of your personal activity, and not an argument for making an item easier to obtain. Otherwise we should make everything spawn everywhere and not have faction-specific or biome-specific items.
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That's what makes exploring and experiencing the mod interesting :)
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RivkahTinuviel wrote:
I think it's logical that this item is only found in the Shire, but a crafting recipe would be nice actually, using a Hobbit CT, as well as the ability to reforge/repair using clay bars. Yes, Aragorn and Gandalf and Saruman and possibly Blue Mountains Dwarves all smoked, but they had traveled and had dealings with the Shire, as mentioned above, so I don't think it can be argued from lore. Just because something is difficult to obtain if you are from an enemy faction is not a valid argument to change that. FT cooldown times are a function of your personal activity, and not an argument for making an item easier to obtain. Otherwise we should make everything spawn everywhere and not have faction-specific or biome-specific items.
I think it's logical that this item is only found in the Shire, but a crafting recipe would be nice actually, using a Hobbit CT, as well as the ability to reforge/repair using clay bars. Yes, Aragorn and Gandalf and Saruman and possibly Blue Mountains Dwarves all smoked, but they had traveled and had dealings with the Shire, as mentioned above, so I don't think it can be argued from lore. Just because something is difficult to obtain if you are from an enemy faction is not a valid argument to change that. FT cooldown times are a function of your personal activity, and not an argument for making an item easier to obtain. Otherwise we should make everything spawn everywhere and not have faction-specific or biome-specific items.
Most dwarves smoke, have they all had dealings with the Shire? Gondorians smoke, and pipeweed even grows in Gondor, yet they knew so little about Hobbits when Merry and Pippin came that they didn't even know that they were called Hobbits. But surely they've had contact with the Shire! If it's hard to obtain a non-faction-specific item just because of you're faction's allegence, it should be changed, especially something so universally used as a pipe. Nobody said "We need pipes to be everywhere because FT cooldown" as an argument, we just used it to explain how annoying it would be for anybody east of the Misty Mountains to get that simple item.
"Otherwise we should make everything spawn everywhere and not have faction-specific or biome-specific items."
What?? So just because I think that, since I want something we know for a fact that people so far as Gondor used to be more easily obtainable to all factions, I suddenly want everything to spawn everywhere? Bruh, do you know what a "strawman argument" is? Because you basically just redefined it.
Bottom line: Weed is smoked in almost every corner of Middle-earth, and as of now we can only find it in the Shire. I think it would be completely reasonable to be able to find them as far as Gondor and maybe even Harad.
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^Could you provide some quotes as evidence, please?
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Peace lol, it just seemed that the suggestion is not well thought out. Access to the Shire / fast travel cooldown is a poor argument because eveyone starts out in the Shire. Secondly, becoming an enemy of a faction is your choice, so saying it is annoying for you to get, is just not a valid argument. Good luck tho
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S'moregoth wrote:
^Could you provide some quotes as evidence, please?
^Could you provide some quotes as evidence, please?
Could've said that to RivkahTinuviel... I just used his format of debate.
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ahem... "His"?
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lol I'm a girl
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