Old Title: Evil Factions have Olags and strong Uruks, but what strong units do the Good Factions have?
I suggest that Good Factions are given stronger units, or at least their units are ballanced to be able to fight Uruks and Olags.
EDIT: Shorten Title ~Sam
ElenionoftheFirmament wrote:
Bottercot wrote: Of course, then one might question why no other mobs take extra headshot damage...
Still more hitboxes buddy.
Multiplying it by 2 wouldn't make it "unfeasible." Only depending on the number of troops you have.
Bottercot wrote: Of course, then one might question why no other mobs take extra headshot damage...
Oh. Lag high?
In all seriousness, though, like Sildarflame said, it really depends on whether you mean PvE or EvE. I haven't done any exerimenting with hired units, but olags aren't really as overpowered as people think. On a flat plain, they dominate. Add a single tree, river, or ditch, and they are almost worthless (against players, at least).
Olags may benefit balance-wise from a decreased movement speed, but they aren't as overpowered as I think they ought to be. On the subject of extra hitboxes, I am not this level of programmer, so I have no idea, but a possible halfway point would be to have Ologs be almost completely resistant to arrows, but have a 5%ish chance that an arrow will do more than usual damage, representing a critical hit. This part may not be worth the effort, but you could also add a skill level for archer NPCs, that would determine their critical hit chance; i.e. a Blackroot Vale Bowman may have a 20% chance to critical-hit an Olog, but a snaga might only have 3%.
I've got a suggestion on the forum that helps add a weakness to them, could potentially help with problems people have.
I also think that ologs are not OP, I just do not like them being super fast, that is, I propose a rebalancing of speed and endurance. in the case of smaller speed, greater resistance, especially for arrows.
S'moregoth wrote: In all seriousness, though, like Sildarflame said, it really depends on whether you mean PvE or EvE. I haven't done any exerimenting with hired units, but olags aren't really as overpowered as people think. On a flat plain, they dominate. Add a single tree, river, or ditch, and they are almost worthless (against players, at least).
Olags may benefit balance-wise from a decreased movement speed, but they aren't as overpowered as I think they ought to be. On the subject of extra hitboxes, I am not this level of programmer, so I have no idea, but a possible halfway point would be to have Ologs be almost completely resistant to arrows, but have a 5%ish chance that an arrow will do more than usual damage, representing a critical hit. This part may not be worth the effort, but you could also add a skill level for archer NPCs, that would determine their critical hit chance; i.e. a Blackroot Vale Bowman may have a 20% chance to critical-hit an Olog, but a snaga might only have 3%.
The thing is, a bow is one of the only feasible weapons against them on a flat plain setting. Their massive knockback, combined with their speed makes it so that even pikes are almost impossible to use, as they have an extremely long weapon reach. The fact that they can run just as fast as a sprinting player makes spamming a fast bow at them one of your only options.
The idea is to slow them down and increase the resistance (or at least remove the knockback), so the ologs will not be useless against archery.
So you can still kill them with arrows, because they will be much more slower.
Just make the dang things slower, or give them some sort of initial "charge" speed boost that is lost once they are engaged in combat.
3 to 5 second speed 1 or speed 2 effect, perhaps?
