<p>Southrons say sometimes that the snake strangles the tree, so they do have a great snake of sorts. </p><p>Those are inderect relantions these are direct desendants. </p><p>We dont need faction specific ones, just more. </p><p>I haven't thought of ideas for some because hobbits aren't argressive at all. </p><p>New Idea: High elves: maiar, since we have balrogs we should have maiar. </p><p>The horrors of utumno are summoned in Utumno Fire level, fire trolls and fire wargs and maybe balrogs drop curruptions of utumno, which are items, 9 of which can be crafted into a blockin a regular crafting table, when placed on the ground in the fire level summons a 3-4 high by 3 block wide creature that is weaponless, has two arms, two legs, a head with yellow or white eyes all covered in scars and open wounds and red orange and light brown. It should move at the speed of a warg or spider and has about 200-225 health and deals 5-7 damage plus knockback 2 and has zero armour.  </p><p>The half-troll troll is a genetic mistake of a half-troll that got more troll in it's blood than human by a significant amount. It is 3/2 blocks, and has the color, sun immunity and fangs of a half troll and the club, looks and speed of a troll. It is summoned by crafting 4 half troll bones and 4 troll bones all around a torog draught in a vanilla crafting table to make a half-troll scent item that when applied to a dirt block to summon a half-troll troll. It has the health of two hill trolls and drops tauredain/moredain amulets </p>

<p>The greater lion is a desendant of the great lion the Morwaith worship. Killing enough lions (20-35) and having negative morwaith alignment summons it. Upon killing it you get a fang of the Lion, a drop that can be crafted into a powerful sword or given to a quest giver of Tauruthrim or Half-Troll. The blade deals 7.5-8.0 hearts but can have 4 modifiersapplied to it. </p>

<p>Narrowed it down to the following: Tauredain : Mumakil Utumno : Horror of Melkor Half-trolls : Half-troll troll </p>

<p>Spawn of Ungoliant: Already exist and are not/should not be bosses.  Balrog Captains: No. Just no. There is one Balrog remaining in Middle Earth, and that is Durin's Bane. </p><p>Horrors of Melkor: I don't even know what those are supposed to be. </p>

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Southrons say sometimes that the snake strangles the tree, so they do have a great snake of sorts. <p>Those are inderect relantions these are direct desendants. </p><p>We dont need faction specific ones, just more. </p><p>I haven't thought of ideas for some because hobbits aren't argressive at all. </p><p>New Idea: High elves: maiar, since we have balrogs we should have maiar. </p><p>The horrors of utumno are summoned in Utumno Fire level, fire trolls and fire wargs and maybe balrogs drop curruptions of utumno, which are items, 9 of which can be crafted into a blockin a regular crafting table, when placed on the ground in the fire level summons a 3-4 high by 3 block wide creature that is weaponless, has two arms, two legs, a head with yellow or white eyes all covered in scars and open wounds and red orange and light brown. It should move at the speed of a warg or spider and has about 200-225 health and deals 5-7 damage plus knockback 2 and has zero armour.  </p><p>The half-troll troll is a genetic mistake of a half-troll that got more troll in it's blood than human by a significant amount. It is 3/2 blocks, and has the color, sun immunity and fangs of a half troll and the club, looks and speed of a troll. It is summoned by crafting 4 half troll bones and 4 troll bones all around a torog draught in a vanilla crafting table to make a half-troll scent item that when applied to a dirt block to summon a half-troll troll. It has the health of two hill trolls and drops tauredain/moredain amulets </p> </i></div>
<p>"The serpent may strangle the tree" </p><p>This is a saying that was first used when Gondor conquered Near Harad. There is a Lore Text regarding this named "Observations". The saying means that Near Harad will be victorious against Gondor. </p><p>@Arcen: </p><p>Quote from Tolkien Gateway:"After the last battle of the First Age, some Balrogs escaped the Valar's wrath and hid deep underground, in inaccesible places at the roots of the earth." </p><p>But I am also against Balrog Captains, mainly because they are already captains of Melkor's legions. </p><p><font color="#8A0808">Jurassic Sean</font><font color="#8A0808"> of Tol Hîth </font> ^{<font color="#8A0808">Visit my Park!</font>}</p>

<p>I have eliminated all of the ideas except the mumakil, Horrors of Melkor, and half-troll trolls. Maybe if the others are denied the great lions and maiar. </p><p>The Horrors of Melkor are the terrifying experiments which melkor made in utumno trying to make horrifying and terrible creatures, the horrors are failures in the view of Melkor.  </p><p>The way to summon the mumakil is to collect tauredain amulets. Killing tauredain shamans and very rarely tauredain people, gives tauredain amulets 4 of which are combined with 5 golden tauredain brickin a tnt formation into a sacred tauredain block (entirely new and possibly golden and with a mumakil head engraved upon it) which when placed in the ground in the far harad jungle summons a mumakil which does not attack until provoked, has a reach far beyond it's hit box (maybe 3-4 blocks), knockback I, 7 damage attacks every 3-4 seconds and has the health of a hill-troll, like galvorn armour does not take damage from arrows and has an armour of 5. It is 12-20 blocks high, 13-22 blocks long and 5-7 blocks wide. It has two horns which are not in it's hit box, once it is defeated it becomes beserk, attacking much faster with knockback II, once it is defeated again it allows you to ride it, and equip a saddle on it but no armour, for balence reasons. And it should only deal damage equal to it's first lifes attack, and should only deal damage in siutations like a mounted rhino, when first charging into battle. </p><p>
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The Lions summoning should be changed but I dont know how. Ideas? </p><p>The half-troll troll now drops a top level scroll as well. </p>

<p>Still need way more details. And why would there be maiar? There’s a reason there was only 5 istari and no more sent since. Maiar are a big no. </p>

<p>I have detail and ok maybe not maiar </p><p>Please kudo the top message everyone. </p>

Any way to delete this chat channel and make a new one?

<p>"The Horrors of Melkor are the terrifying experiments which melkor made in utumno trying to make horrifying and terrible creatures, the horrors are failures in the view of Melkor. " </p><p>
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But what does that <i>mean</i>?  "Horrifying and terrible creatures" is as vague a description as "some sort of color."  Are they supposed to be disfigured giants of some sort?  If they are, just say it. </p><p>
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On the note of things "horrifying and terrible,"  if the Roots of the Mountains from that other guy's suggestion ever get added, the Nameless Horrors mentioned there (giant insects and other invertebrates) would make great bosses imo. </p>