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<p>I think that Angmar needs a overhaul. Anyone Agree? (I will also be suggesting a Dol Guldur overhaul And when I make it I will link here)
</p><p>Buildings
1) Troll Cage Pit
A Cage Pit is basically a Troll behind orc bars and a Orc Trapper holding a piece of the Troll Totem (will not drop) and 2 Angmar Orcs. It spawns in the Angmar Mountains and the Etemmores. Hiring area for trolls.
</p><p>2) Rhudar War Camp
A Gulfling War Camp but with Viking-Rhudar Style. A Rhudar War Hut Holds 2 Rhudar Warriors and a Rhudar Command Hut holds 1 Rhudar Chieftain and 5 Warriors.
</p><p>3) Angmar Stronghold Ruin Holds Rare Loot and A Mountain Orc Extremely Rare in Angmar and The Angmar Mountains.
</p><p>NPCs
</p><p>1) Orc Trapper
Holds a piece of Troll Totem (will not drop) and sells Trolls
</p><p>2) Mountain Orc
A Uruk but 10-25 Health, Holds a Mountain Battle Axe or Angmar Weapons and has Angmar Armor. Elven Weapons do an extra 2 hearts.
</p><p>Items
</p><p>1) A Troll Club (spawns uncommonly in Cage Chests)
</p><p>2) Mountain Battle Axe
Does 8.5 Damage and at Night it glows a sickly green color.
Has a 15% chance to deal 2 more damage to any mounted enemies.
</p><p>There I am done send me your ideas!
</p><p>EDIT- Nevermind about the Dol Guldur Overhaul
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(Edited by Foeslayer12)
<p>I like the mountain Orcs, armour, and axe (although I think they should have different names), and the Troll club.
</p><p>The Rhudaur War Camp is also a good idea.
</p><p>Angmar Strongholds should be in ruins.
</p><p>I don't like the idea of Trolls being carved from stone by Orcs, if that's what you're saying. A full Troll totem spawning in them also doesn't sound right. Trolls being kept in pits is an idea I agree with, though, and I think an Orc Troll-tamer (as opposed to a carver) could be a good idea.
</p><p>I don't like the idea of Orcs popping out full grown from slime. It's too film-inspired, or SoW-inspired, or Tolkien's early abandoned works-inspired.
</p><p>This suggestion has a few good elements in it that could use more detail, but there are definitely parts I don't like. Also, where did you read Gundabad is getting an overhaul? Great if that's been confirmed, I just haven't read that anywhere.
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(Edited by OneBehindTheHair)
<div class="quote"><i>OneBehindTheHair wrote:
I like the mountain Orcs, armour, and axe (although I think they should have different names), and the Troll club. <p>The Rhudaur War Camp is also a good idea. </p><p>Angmar Strongholds should be in ruins. </p><p>I don't like the idea of Trolls being carved from stone by Orcs, if that's what you're saying. A full Troll totem spawning in them also doesn't sound right. Trolls being kept in pits is an idea I agree with, though, and I think an Orc Troll-tamer (as opposed to a carver) could be a good idea. </p><p>I don't like the idea of Orcs popping out full grown from slime. It's too film-inspired, or SoW-inspired, or Tolkien's early abandoned works-inspired. </p><p>This suggestion has a few good elements in it that could use more detail, but there are definitely parts I don't like. Also, where did you read Gundabad is getting an overhaul? Great if that's been confirmed, I just haven't read that anywhere. </p> </i></div>
<p>Grievous gave a suggestion and it got Endorsed So I assumed it (I'll take it out) </p><p>I like the Ruins but not only </p><p>The Carver Pit means that the orcs would Awaken them from the Stone Totem </p><p>Yeah I was a little iffy on the whole reproduction pit thing </p><p>Also I wouldn't suggest a Full Troll Totem just like the legs or head or chest alone </p><p>what do you think I should change it too for the Mountain Orcs? </p>
I like the mountain Orcs, armour, and axe (although I think they should have different names), and the Troll club. <p>The Rhudaur War Camp is also a good idea. </p><p>Angmar Strongholds should be in ruins. </p><p>I don't like the idea of Trolls being carved from stone by Orcs, if that's what you're saying. A full Troll totem spawning in them also doesn't sound right. Trolls being kept in pits is an idea I agree with, though, and I think an Orc Troll-tamer (as opposed to a carver) could be a good idea. </p><p>I don't like the idea of Orcs popping out full grown from slime. It's too film-inspired, or SoW-inspired, or Tolkien's early abandoned works-inspired. </p><p>This suggestion has a few good elements in it that could use more detail, but there are definitely parts I don't like. Also, where did you read Gundabad is getting an overhaul? Great if that's been confirmed, I just haven't read that anywhere. </p> </i></div>
<p>Grievous gave a suggestion and it got Endorsed So I assumed it (I'll take it out) </p><p>I like the Ruins but not only </p><p>The Carver Pit means that the orcs would Awaken them from the Stone Totem </p><p>Yeah I was a little iffy on the whole reproduction pit thing </p><p>Also I wouldn't suggest a Full Troll Totem just like the legs or head or chest alone </p><p>what do you think I should change it too for the Mountain Orcs? </p>
(Edited by Foeslayer12)
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<p>Maybe Gram Mountain Orcs, or Orcs of Gram? Gram-orcs? Tbh, I don't know if we need another set of Orcish gear and armor in the game, although variety is always great.
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(Edited by Hûkrag)
<p>The Gram Orcs are a good idea, and there should be no weapons. And maybe an Uruk from Gram too. And the waypoint should unavailable to positive alignment with the Dùnedain as I had positive Dùnedain and negative Angmar and I could still do fast-travel there. Maybe a glitch but I have always been able to do this? Anyway, for the Orcs they should be Orcs of Gram, and they fit into “canon” while not being canon. Yet they would be a Angmar or Gundabad but just a sub faction. They would be nice. The troll tamer is sorta O.P. and I REALLY like the suggestion by OneBehindTheHair about I think it was Orc Brutally, and I was absolutely slaughtered wearing O.P. Angmar armour against two trolls, one was a snow troll and I was slaughtered! THANK YOU GAMEPLAY GUIDE!!! Lucky I had keepInventory set to true! I say they should be able to be hired but then it should be ramped down a lot, especially if in the books they were petty easy to defeat, not as in stab them in the head and they die. I mean as in they should skirmish, to be more like the books. Plus they should add a higher chance drop from Orcs than just rotten flesh and orc bones, seeing as I have like thirty stacks of many different things, none useful useful, bar the fact that I could use the bones and fur for crap but that is still really bad as I don’t farm and I don’t need that much fur armour. So in this overhaul the pre-suggested stuff for Orcs should be there along with this. Now if only I can write this much on something else...
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(Edited by VirgilTracey314258)
<div class="quote"><i>VirgilTracey314258 wrote:
The Gram Orcs are a good idea, and there should be no weapons. And maybe an Uruk from Gram too. And the waypoint should unavailable to positive alignment with the Dùnedain as I had positive Dùnedain and negative Angmar and I could still do fast-travel there. Maybe a glitch but I have always been able to do this? Anyway, for the Orcs they should be Orcs of Gram, and they fit into “canon” while not being canon. Yet they would be a Angmar or Gundabad but just a sub faction. They would be nice. The troll tamer is sorta O.P. and I REALLY like the suggestion by OneBehindTheHair about I think it was Orc Brutally, and I was absolutely slaughtered wearing O.P. Angmar armour against two trolls, one was a snow troll and I was slaughtered! THANK YOU GAMEPLAY GUIDE!!! Lucky I had keepInventory set to true! I say they should be able to be hired but then it should be ramped down a lot, especially if in the books they were petty easy to defeat, not as in stab them in the head and they die. I mean as in they should skirmish, to be more like the books. Plus they should add a higher chance drop from Orcs than just rotten flesh and orc bones, seeing as I have like thirty stacks of many different things, none useful useful, bar the fact that I could use the bones and fur for crap but that is still really bad as I don’t farm and I don’t need that much fur armour. So in this overhaul the pre-suggested stuff for Orcs should be there along with this. Now if only I can write this much on something else...</i></div>
<p>Okay I disargree with the whole Gram Orcs and no Weapons and let me try to explain why you have the waypoint Mount Gram Open and The crap in your inventory </p><p>1) The Mountain Orcs would be close relatives to the Uruks of Gundabad but sevarely weaker and rare in Angmar and its Mountains and they (sorry forgot to edit in) will cost Hill Troll cost and will need 800 alignment! </p><p>2) How is the Troll Tamer OP? </p><p>3) Weapons were to spice up the Weapons in Evil </p><p>4) You can sell orc loot to oddment collectors for dirt CHEAP </p><p>5) Honestly are you just new and good-basis </p><p>6) Mount Gram is open to all so they have a way up north </p>
The Gram Orcs are a good idea, and there should be no weapons. And maybe an Uruk from Gram too. And the waypoint should unavailable to positive alignment with the Dùnedain as I had positive Dùnedain and negative Angmar and I could still do fast-travel there. Maybe a glitch but I have always been able to do this? Anyway, for the Orcs they should be Orcs of Gram, and they fit into “canon” while not being canon. Yet they would be a Angmar or Gundabad but just a sub faction. They would be nice. The troll tamer is sorta O.P. and I REALLY like the suggestion by OneBehindTheHair about I think it was Orc Brutally, and I was absolutely slaughtered wearing O.P. Angmar armour against two trolls, one was a snow troll and I was slaughtered! THANK YOU GAMEPLAY GUIDE!!! Lucky I had keepInventory set to true! I say they should be able to be hired but then it should be ramped down a lot, especially if in the books they were petty easy to defeat, not as in stab them in the head and they die. I mean as in they should skirmish, to be more like the books. Plus they should add a higher chance drop from Orcs than just rotten flesh and orc bones, seeing as I have like thirty stacks of many different things, none useful useful, bar the fact that I could use the bones and fur for crap but that is still really bad as I don’t farm and I don’t need that much fur armour. So in this overhaul the pre-suggested stuff for Orcs should be there along with this. Now if only I can write this much on something else...</i></div>
<p>Okay I disargree with the whole Gram Orcs and no Weapons and let me try to explain why you have the waypoint Mount Gram Open and The crap in your inventory </p><p>1) The Mountain Orcs would be close relatives to the Uruks of Gundabad but sevarely weaker and rare in Angmar and its Mountains and they (sorry forgot to edit in) will cost Hill Troll cost and will need 800 alignment! </p><p>2) How is the Troll Tamer OP? </p><p>3) Weapons were to spice up the Weapons in Evil </p><p>4) You can sell orc loot to oddment collectors for dirt CHEAP </p><p>5) Honestly are you just new and good-basis </p><p>6) Mount Gram is open to all so they have a way up north </p>
(Edited by Foeslayer12)
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<p>Foeslayer, why is there such a giant range for the Mountain Orc health? 10-25 seems to be really big, and what is the Orc remover for? Also, just because we need to spice up, in your words, evil weapons, should Mevans really add a whole new set of armor and weapons just for a Gundabad/Angmar sub-fac? It seems a bit excessive to me. Great suggestion though, and you have some very cool ideas!
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(Edited by Hûkrag)