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SwitchandSwap·10/24/2021 in General

Hi Everyone.

I was simply wondering, it is possible or advisable to have positive Near Harad Alignment while having Negative with Isengard? I would like to be able to have this avaliable since I use Dunland as a pouch and coin farm and if I cannot, Does anyone have any other factions for a pouch and coin farm?

Thanks!

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Alignment Factions Isengard (Faction)Near Harad (Faction)

IAmNotGoodAtNames·9/1/2021 in Suggestions forum

Restrict Uruks from spawning only in Isenguard and the Uruk Highlands

Isenguard is a really good faction right now, with powerful infantry, an amazing armour set and is relatively close to spawn. However some factions, like the Rohirrim, suffer when compared to them. When the weakly armoured Rohirric warriors face hordes of some of the best infantry and crossbows in the mod they get slaughtered and when you align with Rohan being swarmed by berserkers every time you go somewhere at night gets old pretty quick .

I'd say restricting the stronger units, like beserkers, Uruks and crossbows, to only spawn in the Uruk highlands and Isenguard would help a lot in stopping the issues with aligning with factions like Rohan but at the same time not getting rid of what makes them an interesting faction. They should still spawn in invasions of course but other than that most orcs spawning in Rohan should be snaga, bowmen and wargs.

Thank you for reading this and if you have an idea on how to improve it please leave it in the comments.

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Uruk Isengard (Faction)

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Oosmafloose·11/5/2017 in Suggestions archive

[Closed:Expired] Improving Isengard

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</nav><h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Reasons"> Reasons </span></h2> <p>So, let me first say why I think Isengard should be improved. I find that, in general in the mod, evil factions are less developed than good ones, specifically orc factions like Angmar, Mordor and Isengard. Moreover, as other evil biomes are pretty sinister and menacing (Dol Guldur, Mordor and Angmar mostly), I'm somewhat overwhelmed when I enter Nan Curunir. Thus, I would like to suggest a few changes to both the biome and the faction to develop Isengard and try to embody the destroyed and corrupted vale depicted in the books and films. </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Inspiration"> Inspiration </span></h2> <p>I draw my inspiration from descriptions of Nan Curunir in the Fellowship of the Ring and the Two Towers; I also depicted these proposals thanks to adaptations in the films and video games set in Middle-Earth. To me Isengard should display corruption, industry and devastation (how it was transformed under Saruman), as well as a busy and organized place. </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Proposals"> Proposals </span></h2> <p>What I think would primarily make Isengard more interesting is the addition of structures. They would both add to the biome itself, capturing the corrupted and industrious atmosphere of the Vale under Saruman, as well as serve real purposes to the faction, for looting, trading and more. </p><p>1.Uruk Pit Orcs are known to thrive in deep and dark places. This pit would also serve for mining; the remainder of a forgotten mine used to extract iron and make orc steel, arming the Uruks with their weapons. This would be a fairly common structure in Nan Curunir, almost as common as an Uruk camp, but the loot would be mediocre. 3 Isengard Snagas and an Uruk would spawn at the bottom of it. </p> <figure class="article-thumb tright show-info-icon" style="width: 180px">

<figcaption> <p class="caption">An Uruk Pit</p> </figcaption></figure> It would be about 8 to 10 blocks deep, growing smaller as it got deeper. It's sides would be made of Uruk bricks, dirt, stone, and maybe charred wood (all those cut trees had to be used somewhere). The bottom would feature scorched stone and waste blocks, on fire. The pit would be surrounded by charred wood fence, and a ladder would climb to the top on one of the sides.<figure class="article-thumb tright show-info-icon" style="width: 180px">

<figcaption> </figcaption></figure><p>I was thinking there could be an orc forge at the bottom of the pit, with a chest halfway down. It could contain iron/copper/tin ore, plus the usual orc items (maggoty bread, coal, sticks). The loot would be slightly better than that of an orc tent. </p><p>
2.Uruk Forge Tolkien described Nan Curunir's former landscape being replaced by pits and forges, and Isengard itself becoming an industrious producer of steel and death. Therefore it seems only fitting that a full forge structure would replace those small forge tents found in Uruk camps. </p> <figure class="article-thumb tright show-info-icon" style="width: 180px">

<figcaption> </figcaption></figure><p>This new forge would be a semi-rare structure (similar to the occurence of Elven smithies) and would be made of Uruk bricks, with a slab roof held up by charred wood fences, with a large hole in it to let smoke out. Openings on either side would be covered with Uruk steel bars. At the back of the forge would be a lava pit, and orc forges on either side, while to one sides of the structure would be a chest, and on the other an Uruk crafting table. There could (possibly) be weapon racks on the walls, bearing Uruk weapons. </p> <figure class="article-thumb tright show-info-icon" style="width: 180px">

<figcaption> </figcaption></figure><p>The loot in the chest would be considerable, being mainly weapons, armour, orc steel and Uruk steel. This could be the evil equivalent of Elven smithies, equipping players with the destructive capabilities to kill Rohirrim and Gondorians. </p><p>Like smithies, this forge would contain an Uruk Smith (unheard of, I know!). He would sell Uruk weapons and armour, as well as the odd Dunland chestplate or Uruk steel bar, and would buy iron ore, coal, orc steel, Uruk steel, oak logs and iron ingots. This would, in my view, solve the problem of limited orc traders, and give evil players the chance to use their looted coins. </p><p>
3.Uruk Brewery Have you ever wondered where orc-draughts are brewed? The morgul-shrooms required to make them are found in Mordor, but we can safely assume that Sauron was kind enough to ship some to Saruman in Isengard. </p> <figure class="article-thumb tright show-info-icon" style="width: 180px">

<figcaption> </figcaption></figure><p>The Uruk brewery would be as rare (if not rarer) than the orc forge, and would be built out of Uruk bricks with a roof of charred wood slabs. Inside it would contain three empty barrels on either side of the 7 blocks-long structure, with a chest at the end. It would contain mostly orc-draughts, allowing evil players to restock their supplies, and possibly have some maggoty bread, rotten flesh, and a bucket. </p> <figure class="article-thumb tright show-info-icon" style="width: 180px">

<figcaption> </figcaption></figure><p>An NPC would spawn there: the Orc brewer. Resembling more of an Isengard snaga than an Uruk, he would sell orc draughts or varying potencies, and would buy morgul-shrooms, bones of all kinds, water buckets, and mugs/waterskins. </p><p>This brewery would further emphasize the alliance between Mordor and Isengard, and highlight the industrious nature of Nan Curunir. </p><p>
4.Ruined towers This last proposal is not an orc one. Before Saruman made Isengard his home, it was a fortress built by men, with the tower of Orthanc at the centre. Therefore I think it would be fitting to add small, ruined turrets to remind players of the corruption of the fortress. </p><p>While I didn't build one myself, this turret would resemble Gondorian turrets, except made of stone bricks, with missing blocks and waste blocks surrounding the structure. There could be loot in this structure, or there couldn't be. I leave it up to the modders to decide, but if it did contain items, I'd say it should have Gondorian or Arnorian gear, as well as arrows, crossbow bolts, leather and coal. </p><p>
Bonus proposal So, the reason Fangorn is a sworn enemy of the Uruks of Isengard is because the orcs started chopping it's trees to fuel the forges of Nan Curunir. But looking at the biome as well as it's neighbour, the Uruk highlands, you'd wonder why. They are filled with trees! Maybe I'm missing something, but in my view, those two biomes should have their vegetation significantly reduced. </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Conclusion"> Conclusion </span></h2> <p>All in all, I think these changes would improve the experience of evils players crossing the region, and would make Isengard a stepping stone before heading to the dark lands of Mordor. In addition, I think they'd add to the realism and story of Middle-Earth, and to the atmosphere of Nan Curunir in general. </p><p>I hope you consider these proposals and make any suggestions to improve. Thanks for reading! </p>

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Uruk Nan Curunír Isengard (Faction)

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A Fandom user·7/15/2017 in General Mod Discussion

Update hint / Isengard Quest

<p>Could you add primary structures ? (for example Isengard's Tower, Moria, Minas Tirith,Barad Dur's Tower ). Please. </p><p>If you add this things, this Mod will be PERFECT! I'm sure. </p><p>P.S:I 've read that Isengard Structure is already in the Mod, but when I go to Isengard I don't find it... How it is possible? </p>

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Updates Isengard (Faction)

Gen. Grievous1138·5/2/2017 in Community-endorsed Suggestions

[Endorsed] On the Uruk-hai of Saruman

<p>Hello there! It is once more time for a major suggestion. This time, my focus is on the soldiers of Saruman: the Uruk-hai of Isengard. Currently, Isengard is a fun faction to play as. But as many will point out, there is a bit of imbalance, and I also think there is more that can be done to make the faction unique. </p> <nav id="toc" class="toc" data-loaded="false"><div id="toctitle"><h2>Contents</h2><span class="toctoggle">[show]</span></div>

</nav><h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Biomes">Biomes</span></h2> <p>To start, Nan Curunír should have no or very few living trees. Actual, living trees would be a rare sight, rarer than charred trees in Mordor. However, charred trees could be slightly more common, as with stumps or rotted logs. In addition, cave systems should be larger and more frequent here, if possible, as should ravines. New structures and spawning would be added, as well. </p><p>The Uruk Highlands are a common point of debate. However, I do not think they need to be entirely removed. However, Uruk-hai should be less common here, and their structures should be removed save for occasional camps, though destroyed Rohirric structures should retain their current frequency. </p><p>In addition, I suggest a new biome: the Gap of Rohan. This would replace the stretch of Enedwaith immediately west of the Isen, and would be similar to Enedwaith terrain-wise, though it would be Isengard-controlled. Uruk mobs would spawn fairly commonly, and Uruk structures would spawn at the current rate the generate in the Uruk Highlands. Wargs and Warg-riders should be exceptionally common here. </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Crafting">Crafting</span></h2> <p>The following would now be crafted on the Isengard crafting table. </p>

Isengard Scout Armor - Crafted with a Rohirric mix of Uruk Steel and leather, Isengard Scout Armor would give iron-level protection and would be used by Uruk Scouts. The armor would look similar to a lighter version of the current Uruk armor. The helmets would have splotches of white (in the shape of an s-rune, if that can work).
Isengard Bow - Crafted with one Uruk Steel, two sticks, and three string. The crafting pattern would be the normal bow pattern, but with the Uruk steel ingot replacing the stick on the far left. Isengard bows would have range second only to the Dalish Longbow, fairly high damage, and a fairly slow draw-speed.
Isengard Captain Helmet - Crafted like the Uruk Berserker helmet, but replacing the bonemeal with another Uruk Steel ingot. Isengard captains would wear them, and they would look like normal Isengard helmets with a wider crest.
Nan Curunír Guard Armor - This armor would be crafted with regular iron on the Isengard crafting table. It would give iron-level protection, and would look like a cross between the Isengard and Dunland armors.
Half-Orc Waraxe - This would be crafted by combining an Isengard Battleaxe with four Uruk Steel ingots. It would deal 10 damage and would otherwise function as a normal battleaxe.

<h2><span class="mw-headline" id="NPCs">NPCs</span></h2> <p>I’m going to start off with this before diving into the NPCs. What I tried here is to balance the faction and make it lore-accurate while keeping the feel of the current Isengard faction. As such, I have opted not to suggest the removal of the current Uruk-hai, crossbowers, or Uruk Berserkers, but rather make them different units that would be much more rare, and fill their roles with lore-accurate NPCs instead. </p>

Isengard Snagae - Would have their health and size reduced to that of Mordor Snagae: 16 health and dwarf-size.
Isengard Warg-Riders - Uruk-hai should not ride wargs. That should be left to soldier-orcs. Isengard Warg-Riders would be a unique orc unit. Warg-riders would be like current Isengard Snagae, but would always use Isengard weapons, and Isengard armor would be twice as likely to be worn by them. The ranged variant would use Orc Bows.
Isengard Miners - New Snaga-type traders that would spawn in Isengard Mineshafts. The would use random mixes of armor and Uruk picks, and sell and buy along the same lines as Dwarven miners.
Isengard Uruk - New basic Uruk units. They would use Isengard armor and weapons, just like current Uruk-hai, but would have 20 health. They would replace Uruk-hai spawning in all biomes in which they currently spawn, at the current rates, save with reduced numbers in the Highlands and current Highlands numbers in the Gap of Rohan. The ranged variant would use Uruk Bows.
Isengard Uruk Warrior - These would be the current Uruk-hai: Uruk armor and weapons and 26 health. Uruk Warriors would spawn occasionally in Nan Curunír, the Uruk Highlands, the Fangorn Wasteland, and the Gap of Rohan. The ranged variant would use crossbows.
Isengard Uruk Scout - Uruk Warriors equipped with Uruk Scout armor. They switch between Isengard Uruk Cleavers and Uruk Bows. They would spawn in Nan Curunír, the Gap of Rohan, and would spawn in raids on Rohan itself. In addition, they would have a small speed buff.
Isengard Uruk Berserker - They would now only spawn in Nan Curunír, with no changes.
Isengard Captain - At this point, this should be both expected and straightforward. Captains are renamed chieftains, and now use Captain helmets.
Isengard Blacksmith - New traders that use Isengard armors without helmets and Blacksmith hammers. They sell Isengard gear and will buy materials. They spawn in Isengard Forge-Pits.
Nan Curunír Guard - New human units that spawn only in Nan Curunír. They would be Isengard-aligned Dunlendings using Nan Curunír Guard armor and Isengard weapons. They would be semi-uncommon, and as a result Dunlending civilians would be removed from the biome, and Dunlending Warriors would be a bit rarer. They are hireable, and would be the trusted men that Saruman kept at his gate.
Half-Orc - Half-Orcs are strong units, hybrids of humans and fighter-orcs. These would be of the type of the Squint-Eyed Southerner, and would have 25 health, a strength buff, iron weapons, and a mix of fur and leather armor. They would spawn in Nan Curunír and the Gap of Rohan uncommonly, and would rarely spawn in Dunland, and normal Enedwaith.
Half-Orc Berserker - These are the soldiers that cut down Théodred, the best of Isengard. They would use the same equipment as Isengard Berserkers, save with Half-Orc Waraxes. They would have 30 health, a strength buff, and a speed buff. They would only spawn in Nan Curunír and occasionally in the Gap of Rohan, and would be rare in either case. They would also be very expensive.

<h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Structures">Structures</span></h2>

Isengard Camp - You know how it works at this point. Camps now would have two sizes of camp: small camps, which would be the current ones and would generate in Nan Curunír and the Gap of Rohan, and large camps, which would be four small camps with additional structures that would generate in the same biomes. Small camps would remain the same, but with trader stalls. Large camps would have up to 16 tents (up to four of which are forge tents), a fire-pit, a trader stall, four farms, a crafting table, and a mess tent. Unlike Mordor Camps, there would not be a city variant. Captains would no longer spawn in either.
- Tent - Normal tents should at least have 1-2 orc beds in them.
- Trader Stall - Instead of being free-roaming, Isengard Uruk Traders would spawn in these. These would be little charred wood shacks, with a loot chest, a barrel of orc draught, an armor stand, and a sword rack.
- Fire-pit - 3x3 campfires, complete with cut logs for benches, a chest, and a logpile.
- Mess-tent - Large tents supported by four full wood beams, and containing a table with seats and food/drink for orcs. There would be barrels, furnaces, and chests along the walls.
Isengard Forge-Pit - Open-air, natural-style caves with large, lava-based forge contraptions featuring many Orc Forges, unsmelteries, fire, and furnaces. Isengard Blacksmiths would spawn here, and loot chests, crafting tables, and the like would be very common. These would only generate in Nan Curunír.
Isengard Mine - Deep, open-air, natural-looking pits crossed with wooden catwalks, and featuring winding mining tunnels down below. The entrance-foyer would have forges, while chests and miners would spawn throughout the tunnels. These would only generate in Nan Curunír.
Isengard Caverns - These would essentially be cities for Isengard. Isengard Caverns would be large, winding cave-systems, opening to the surface with ravines and expanding in several directions with tunnels. The main ravine would be crossed with rickety wooden bridges, which would join around various platforms. On the walls of the cavern shacks for Uruks would generate. Tunnels would lead off in various directions from the main cave, and would connect to forge-pits (similar to the standalone structures but completely underground), houses, armories, mines, towers, dungeons, warg pens and barracks. An Isengard Uruk Captain would spawn on the central platform. Most of the structure would be randomly generated and could possibly contain more than one central ravine. The bottoms of main ravines would have additional armor-stores and forges amongst piles of waste. These would only generate in Nan Curunír.
Isengard Watch-Tower - Rickety towers of charred wood. They would have three platforms supported on beams, similar to a far more ramshackle version of the Ranger Watchtower. These would contain Uruk Archers and Uruk Warrior Crossbowers, and would generate in Nan Curunír and the Gap of Rohan.
Isengard Fort - Structures built of Uruk Brick that generate in the Gap of Rohan only. These forts are fairly small and are similar to my suggested Mordor Forts. They feature Isengard Captains.
Isengard Wastepit - Pits that generate across Nan Curunír. They have piles of waste in them, and if possible should have colored smoke streaming out.

<h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Other">Other</span></h2> <h3><span class="mw-headline" id="Titles">Titles</span></h3> <p>[Nan Curunír] - Get +100 Isengard alignment. </p><p>[Isengard Uruk] - Get +100 Isengard alignment. </p><p>[Isengard Scout] - Get +100 Isengard alignment. </p><p>[Isengard Warg-Rider] - Get +100 Isengard alignment. </p><p>[Isengard Uruk Warrior] - Get +100 Isengard alignment. </p><p>[Nan Curunír Guard] - Get +200 Isengard alignment. </p><p>[Half-Orc] - Get +200 Isengard alignment. </p><p>[Half-Orc Berserker] - Get +200 Isengard alignment. </p> <h3><span class="mw-headline" id="Achievements">Achievements</span></h3> <p>[The Wolves of Isengard] - Kill an Isengard Warg-Rider. </p><p>[Saruman’s Elite] - Kill an Isengard Uruk Warrior. </p><p>[Hunter of the White Hand] - Equip a full set of Isengard Scout Armor. </p><p>[The Wizard’s Scouts] - Kill an Isengard Scout. </p><p>[The Men at the Gate] - Kill a Nan Curunír Guard. </p><p>[Gatekeeper] - Equip a full set of Nan Curunír Guard Armor. </p><p>[Goblin-Men] - Kill a Half-Orc. </p><p>[Théodred’s Bane] - Kill a Half-Orc Berserker. </p><p>Gen. Grievous1138 (LOTR Mod Wiki Admin) <sup>comlink</sup> 10:24, May 2, 2017 (UTC) </p>

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