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Thenewguy2263·6/17/2023 in General

A small exempt from my adventures in Middle-Earth:

I decided I should go to Rhudel for no real reason at all (other than maybe getting pomegranates?). So I fast-travelled to Dorwinion (since I am agood-aligned player) and travelled east crossing into Rhudel from there. After getting some pomegranate saplings, which obviously took like 5 seconds, I thought: "why not just keep fighting my way through this place?" and so I did. Then, after another few minutes I thought "why not fight my way all the way south and go into mordor?" after all, I had conquest set to true, so as long as I could kill a couple of orcs I figured I'd be fine.

At this point, the plan looked like this: go all the way south through rhudel, enter mordor via the eastern watch, and then maybe go all the way through mordor to Minas Tirith or something? It wouldn't be that hard, would it? So I travel further south through rhudel and raid some towns for supplies along the way (It's a long way through the entirety of Mordor after all), and I finally reach mordor. I see the great hordes before me and for a moment I hesitate, but being the brave soldier I am, I decide to go in. I try to isolate a single orc so that I can kill it and get conquest, but his buddies can't help themselves and join in too! Outnumbered, I try to perform a tactical retreat, but then a LAG SPIKE appears! I am frozen for a whole second, and when I ultimately return to control I have been knocked into a lava ravine by some wargs, granting me a guaranteed death and the loss of my precious mithril sword.

I thought it wouldn't be to hard, just another day of fighting and traveling. Surely Mordor wouldn't be much harder than all the places I have been to before in my life? But of course, my attitude was proven wrong immediately. I lasted less than one minute in Mordor. One minute!

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Drour1234·11/12/2021 in General

A Unique Perspective On The Mewlips Poem.

Here is an interesting analysis of The Mewlips from the Adventures of Tom Bombadil that changed my perspective of the poem:

https://atolkienistperspective.wordpress.com/2018/09/28/the-shadows-where-the-mewlips-really-dwell-mapping-the-road-to-mordor/amp/

“The Shadows Where the Mewlips [really] dwell” – Mapping the road to Mordor?A Tolkienist's Perspective

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A Fandom user·7/4/2017 in Suggestions archive

[Closed:Insufficient/Unspecific] Mordor and Subfactions

So, Mordor as we know it today is perhaps one of the strongest factions in Middle-earth. The one thing it lacks, however, is diversity. In places such as the Morgul Vale and Udûn, we only see your average Mordor Orc, which occasionally rides a warg. Black Uruks and Olog-hai pop up here and there, and that’s about it. So the main topic of this suggestion (and it’s a massive one) is primarily about adding diversity to Mordor. 
Region-specific mobs- These mobs, obviously, are assigned to either the whole of Mordor, or are unique to one biome while not being a part of a sub-faction.

Mordor Uruk- This, I feel, will get the most controversy. Essentially the Gundabad Uruk equivalent of Mordor, except with slightly lower quality armor. These guys would wear Mordor Uruk armor, which gives 16 armor points due to the use of fur, and wield Mordor Uruk equipment. They would spawn everywhere in Mordor, as well as Ithilien, Dagorlad, Nindalf, and Emyn Muil. Unlike Black Uruks, these guys can occasionally get into fights amongst other orcs. They will also give an alignment bonus of 2 per kill, as opposed to Black Uruks, which will give 3 alignment per kill. They can be hired from Mordor Orc Commanders for +300 Mordor alignment and 40 silver coins.

Mordor Uruk Archer- Mordor Uruks with their own unique bow. They require +350 Mordor alingment and 50 silver coins to hire.

Black Uruk Berserker- These guys are the rarest, the most loyal to Sauron, and most war hungry of all the Mordor Orcs (plus being the angriest). They are the same height as Isengard Uruk Berserkers. While regular Black Uruks have 30 health, these guys boast 40 HP. The chance of being attacked by these guys with positive Mordor alignment is much higher than regular orcs. In fact, they will attack anyone immediately with alignment under +35. They fully trust you when your alignment reaches +175. They can also run faster than the player, and can see at a far greater distance, rivalling that of a warg. Because they are so strong, they are very rare for that reason, both in Mordor and in Black Uruk invasions. Only a max of two can spawn per invasion. They have their own unique helmet and chestplate, as well as wielding their own cleaver. They can be hired for +600 Mordor alignment and 90-120 silver coins.

Mordor Orc Scout- This is based off of a suggestion for Gundabad from General Grievous. They would be slightly bigger than hobbits and have 18 health, but are able to detect enemies from a greater distance, and can see through Galadhrim cloaks and Ranger invisibility. They only wear fur armor, and are able to switch between orc bows and a unique Mordor scimitar. They would not spawn in Mordor itself, but would spawn only, and rarely, in Ithilien. They also spawn occasionally in Mordor invasions. They can be hired from Mordor commanders, for +150 Mordor alignment and 15 silver coins.

Mordor Mountain-troll- Mountain-trolls, but for Mordor. They would replace the Olog-hai spawning in the Mordor Mountains. They would behave in the same way as northern Mountain-trolls, except they have a slightly darker skin tone and wield clubs made of charred wood. In addition, they would throw Mordor rock instead of stone, and, when exposed to daylight, would shatter into Mordor rock particles. They can be hired (though it's not necessarily recommended) from Mordor commanders for +450 Mordor alignment and 90-110 silver coins.

Núrn Guard- Orcs unique to Núrn. These guys would not spawn naturally, but in structures in Núrn. They would replace the Mordor orcs spawning on the first level of Slaver Towers. In addition, four would spawn in wheat fields. Unlike most orcs, these guys do not skirmish. They would wear Mordor armor, but have their own unique helmet, which is crafted in a similar fashion as the Uruk-hai Berserker helmet. They would also wield Mordor glaives, which is statistically identical to a Mordor Warscythe, but is crafted like a pike, flipped upside down (in other words, the orc steel would go on the top rather than on the side). Apart from Gundabad orcs, these mobs are the only mobs to spawn with these glaives. If it is possible to hire both farmhands and military units from a single trader, they can be hired from slavers for +300 alignment and 45 coins. If not, they can be hired from Mordor commanders for the same price.

I just wanted to quickly mention that Black Uruk Chieftains and towers were in my sights. However, I was also aware of the fact that Mevans was planning on implementing Black Uruk Chieftains and structures, and as such I thought it would be a little risky to suggest them. 
Sub-Factions- 
Morgul Vale- This sub-faction is dominant in, obviously, the Morgul Vale. A banner for it was introduced in Beta 29, but that was just about it. This is an expansion for it. The Morgul Vale would invade most commonly in Ithilien. Morgul Vale invasions would be uncommon in Gondor, and rare in its fiefdoms (Dol Amroth, Lossarnach, Lebennin, etc.)

Morgul Orc- These orcs would replace the Mordor Orcs spawning in the Morgul Vale. They would also spawn sometimes in Ithilien. They would wear Mordor, Angmar, and Dol Guldur Armor, and wield the corresponding equipment. To be hired from Morgul Orc Chieftains, they need +250 alignment with Mordor and 20-25 silver coins.

Morgul Orc Archer- Morgul orcs with orc bows. They can be hired for +300 Mordor alignment and 30 silver coins.

Morgul Orc Warg Rider- Morgul orcs riding Mordor Wargs. The wargs would be able to spawn with Mordor Warg Armor and Angmar Warg Armor. Mounted warriors require +350 Mordor alignment and cost 30-50 silver coins. Mounted archers need +400 Mordor alignment and cost 45-55 silver coins.

Morgul Orc Warrior- This is also based off a suggestion from General Grievous. These guys would spawn rarely in the Morgul Vale, and in Morgul Vale invasions ONLY. Up to two can spawn per invasion. These orcs would wear Morgul Orc Armor They would also appear with Morgul-spears, which, when thrown, the spears would inflict the wither effect on the target. After the spear has been used, they will use a Mordor Uruk Scimitar. They also have deeper voices. They require +450 with Mordor and 70-90 silver coins.

Morgul-troll- Specialized Olog-hai for the Morgul Vale. These guys are basically the same as Mirk-trolls, except for the fact that their armor is dark green, and they would have the Morgul Vale symbol on their armor instead of a spider. They require +550 with Mordor and 125-140 silver coins.

Minas Morgul Banner Bearer- These guys have been added in Beta 29, but I just wanted to quickly mention that these guys would also wear the same armor and wield the same weapons as regular Morgul Orcs.

Morgul Orc Chieftain- Captains from which you can hire all of the above (in addition to Mordor Uruks). These guys would spawn in Morgul towers.

Morgul Wraith- Lesser wraiths serving the Nazgûl. These guys would spawn rarely in the Morgul Vale, and are fairly rare in invasions, even rarer than Morgul Orc Warriors. In addition, one can spawn when a player kills another player or NPC with a Morgul Blade, and then holds down the right mouse button. To go even further, the player wielding the Morgul blade can command the wraith like a hired unit if said player has at least +600 Mordor alignment. This is the only way to “hire” the wraiths. It would be pretty harsh on the durability of the Morgul Blade, though, not to mention there is a 25 minute “cooldown” afterwards. They would inflict the wither effect on anything they hit. They would also take the appearance similar to a dementor, but with chilling green eyes.

Morannon- This is a completely new sub-faction. It is dominant primarily in the Valley of Udûn. The Morannon Banner would have a depiction of the Black Gate with an eye above it. Morannon invasions are fairly common in Dagorlad and Ithilien, uncommon in Nindalf and Emyn Muil, and rare in Gondor and its fiefdoms.

Morannon Orc- These guys would partially replace Mordor Orcs in Dagorlad, and completely in the valley of Udûn. They would have 24 health, as opposed to regular Mordor Orcs, which would have 20 health. They would have their own armor, but wield Mordor equipment. They can be hired from Morannon Orc Chieftains for +250 Mordor Alingment and 25 silver coins.

Morannon Orc Archer- Morannon Orcs with orc bows. They can be hired for +300 Mordor alignment and 35 silver coins.

Morannon Orc Warg Rider- Morannon Orcs mounted on Mordor Wargs. Mounted warriors can be hired for +300 Mordor alignment and 40 silver coins. Mounted archers require +350 Mordor alignment and 60 silver coins.

Morannon Banner Bearer- Self-explanatory. They can be hired for +350 Mordor alignment and 45-55 silver coins.

Morannon Orc Chieftain- Hiring NPC from which all of the above can be hired. They spawn in Morannon fortresses.

Nan Ungol- Nan Ungol is another sub-faction that is already in the mod, and can already invade places, but this is just one little suggestion to make it unique.

Nan Ungol Spider Warrior- This is, again, partially based off of another one of Grievous’ suggestions. These guys would spawn occasionally in Nan Ungol, and in Nan Ungol invasions. They would always be found riding a spider (and only spiders with either 24 or 30 health). They would have their own unique armor. They also have the ability to switch between orc bows and a Nan Ungol Spider Cleaver. The cleaver would inflict the poison effect on the target. They can be hired from Mordor Spider Keepers, for +400 alignment and 85 silver coins.

Structures-

Morgul Tower- These are basically a combo between towers from Dol Guldur and Mordor. The tower would be crawling with Morgul Orcs. At the top resides a Morgul Orc Chieftain.

Ruined/Overtaken Gondor Watchfort- These structures only spawn in Ithilien. They are an echo of a time long past when Gondor was once a great kingdom. The ruined one has nothing special to it. The overtaken one, however, has Mordor Orcs and Uruks spawning in it, as well as the Gondor stuff being replaced by Mordor stuff.

Mordor Mine- These are similar to Dwarven mines. They are found only in Gorgoroth. The above ground structure is basically a sort of mini tower. At the top there is a Mordor Orc Trader. Down below is a giant complex, which is rarely lit except for intersections lit by orc torches. The corridors are seething with Mordor Orcs, Uruks, and occasionally, Black Uruks. The loot is somewhat the same as a Mordor Orc Dungeon/Mordor Camp, except for the fact that one can, very rarely, find mithril nuggets. This chance increases as one descends deeper into the mine.

Mordor Fortresses (Medium and Large)- These fortresses would spawn rarely in Mordor, most commonly in Nurn and Udûn. The Udûn one, however, would have its own variant, with Morannon Orcs and banners instead of Mordor. The medium fortress would be similar in looks to a Gondor watchfort, except that the entrance is one level higher, has a couple of tower-like structures, is made of Mordor brick and holds a Mordor or Morannon Orc Chieftain. The large fortress is a square structure would have five towers. One would be a gatehouse; one would be a sort of battlement; one would be a prison tower; with a depiction of the eye of Sauron; one would hold a trader; and the last, and the tallest one, will hold a chieftain. All of the towers, excluding the gatehouse, would have randomized locations per fortress. In the middle would be a smithy.

Armor & Equipment-

Mordor Orc Equipment- First, to prevent mix-ups, I suggest renaming Mordor Armor and Equipment to Mordor Orc Armor and Equipment. Augmentations for this equipment set would include a mace, a glaive, and a pike. There should also be a Mordor Scout Scimitar, wielded only by scouts. The scout scimitar would be crafted like a Pelargir Eket.

Morannon Armor- This is the set that is worn by Morannon orcs. It would be similar to Mordor Orc Armor, but the fur would be red instead of brown. In addition, the eye would be painted onto the helmet. It is crafted with orc steel, fur, and red dye. It would give 15 armor points.

Mordor Uruk Armor- This is the set worn by Mordor Uruks. It is crafted with uruk steel and fur. As a result, it gives 16 armor points.

Mordor Uruk Equipment- This set is used by Mordor Uruks. It is composed of everything a Gundabad Uruk equipment set is composed of, with the addition of a glaive (similar to the Mordor Orc glaive). The base damage would be +7 HP.

Black Uruk Equipment- This should get a slight boost in base damage, up to +7.5 HP. It should also get a poleaxe. The Black Uruk Berserker Cleaver, however, should deal up to +8.5 HP. It should also be crafted with three Black Uruk steel ingots and one stick. The crafting recipe would be similar to a throwing axe.

Black Uruk Berserker Armor- This would comprise of two pieces, the helmet and the chestplate. The helmet would combine a Black Uruk helmet with two Black Uruk steel ingots and one piece of red dye. The chestplate combines a Black Uruk chestplate with a piece of red dye and two orc skull staves for the design on the back.

Nan Ungol Spider Armor & Cleaver- This is the loadout for Nan Ungol Spider Warriors. The armor would be crafted using orc steel and leather. The helmet would have a spider design on it, and the chestplate would also have a red spider. The protection given is 14 AP. The cleaver would deal 9 HP per hit, plus giving a poison effect, making it a powerful weapon. It is crafted like an Uruk Berserker scimitar, but with a bone replacing the stick, plus the use of a bottle of poison.

Morgul Orc Armor & Morgul-spear- This equipment is used only by Morgul Orc Warriors. The armor is crafted by using both Morgul steel and orc steel. The armor would have a 30% chance to inflict a thorns-like effect on the attacker, but with green status effect particles appearing. In addition, the armor would, on every third hit, deplete 6 durability from the attacker’s weapon. Morgul-spears are crafted like any other spear, but with Morgul steel instead. When thrown, the spears would inflict the wither effect on the target. On a quick side note, I never knew Morgul-spears was suggested by someone else until after I listed these and was just randomly looking on the suggestions forum.

Nazgûl Armor- Again, to prevent mix-ups, I suggest renaming Morgul Armor to Nazgûl Armor. It will keep its same crafting recipe, however.
Núrn Helmet- A unique helmet used only by the guards of Núrn. To craft it, it requires one undamaged Mordor helmet and one orc steel ingot directly on top.

Ash Damage- 
This is based off of a suggestion from a guy who didn’t give much detail, so here I will elaborate. When a player is in Mordor, they have a chance to get damaged, similarly to the cold from Forodwaith. When they are hit by this effect, the edges of the screen would get ash particles around it. Players would get struck most by ash damage in Gorgoroth, and least frequently in Dagorlad, the Ithilien Wasteland, and the Eastern Desolation. It would never, however, occur in Núrn. However, as a player’s alignment with Mordor goes up, the chance of being stuck by ash damage decreases. Only when a player surpasses +300 alignment will they no longer be hit. 
Rarity System- To balance things out, I also suggest that there should be a “rarity system,” so to speak, for the spawn of Mordor. For instance, Mordor Orcs would spawn most commonly, Mordor Uruks would have a little lower spawn rate, and Black Uruks would be the rarest. Mordor Wargs and trolls would be classified as “uncommon.” So, what do you think? Feel free to leave your thoughts and opinions. Other than that, have a great day. :) 
Links to other threads- These are links to threads where a couple ideas came from, as well as the Morgul-spear thread I just stumbled upon one time. -[[1]] -[[2]] (punctuation warning) -[[3]]

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Campinator·5/28/2017 in Lore Texts

[Implemented] Evil Prose

After writing some Hobbit Poetry, I was in a poem mood, and tried to write some for evil factions. This may get expanded later, but here are the few I have so far: <hr>

#title:Off to Barad-dûr
#author:{Orc Name}
#types:mordor,angmar, dol_guldur,gundabad
#
#by Campinator
#A marching chant
#
The night is long and the day is bright
but we, the orcs, don't need a light.
We scatter enemies in fright
on our way to Barad-dûr.
#
Work, work, work, lads!
We're off to Barad-dûr.
#
Our enemies they run in fear
when our tramping footsteps gather near
and so we march and march and march and march.
For we're off to Barad-dûr.
#
Work, work, work, lads!
We're off to Barad-dûr.
#
Over the mountains tall and cold
we venture everywhere, so bold!
And then we turn to that stronghold
the mighty Barad-dûr.
#
Work, work, work, lads!
We're off to Barad-dûr.

<hr>Note: if mentions of pixelated Nurn slavery has the potential to offend you, don't read this. Shouldn't be necessary but it's 2017... <div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">

#title:A Slave's Lament
#author:Nurn Slave
#types:mordor
#
#by Campinator
#
The master's whip makes fearful slaves
But still we work among the wheat.
For what is left but fearful knaves
after we've been harshly beat?

</div> <hr>If you're not a maggot, step up and throw some advice at me.

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Oosmafloose·5/17/2017 in Suggestions archive

[Closed:Planned/Insufficient] More orc/evil structures

Reason Playing with an evil faction (especially orc factions) is always harder than being good. Their biomes tend to be poor in resources, food is scarce, and I think we've got to address the fact that the orc factions (mainly Mordor, Angmar and Dol Guldur) should have more structures. All three mainly have towers and tents, while it would be great if we made them more unique, with more complex, custom and lootable structures. I don't mean we should create Orc villages or taverns, but militaristic or economic buildings would make exploring Mordor or Dol Guldur vastly more entertaining, in my opinion. 
Proposals A very important faction in Middle-Earth, that is yet so undeveloped, is Mordor. Representing the pinacle of evil, I think Mordor's barren landscape should have more than just a few tents and towers. In addition to this, with the introduction of sub-factions, comes the potential of creating unique and custom structures to Mordor. Gondor, for example, has many different variants of fortresses and other military buildings. Why not have a large prison on the plains of Gorgoroth? Mines and watchtowers in the mountains? Large warehouses in Nùrn? Trading posts in the Eastern Desolation, for Rhunic merchants? An Orc draught brewery in the Morgul Vale? I aslo think that Mordor, Dol Guldur and Angmar should all receive a walled fortress each, which could vary depending on the faction (Dol Guldur's could be more sorcery-oriented, for example, with enchantments and magical brews). 
Conclusion I just think all of these elements and structures, which could provide loot and exploration as well as quest oppurtunities, are essential to making Mordor and other Orc biomes more entertaining to explore. 
Thanks for reading, and please consider these proposals!

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AlteOgre·4/11/2017 in Community-endorsed Suggestions

[Endorsed] East of Mordor - Land under Shadow

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</nav><h2> Basic notion </h2> When pondering this thread, on additions in the east of Mordor, I felt there should be some area in the east where easterlings and variags would have passed more safely. The Eastern Desolation as proposed by Grievous in mentioned thread may be fitting for part of that area, but a sense of logic and realism tells me Núrn should have been accessible from Khand and the Rhúdel via a less dangerous route. I also missed a logical 'transition biome' between the Eastern Desolation and Rhûn and Rhúdel where Easterling and Mordor troops guard the passage of any foreign party to prevent any unwanted intrusions in the east of Mordor. 
 <h2> Proposal </h2> Add a biome to the east of Mordor that connects the Eastern Desolation with the Rhúdel and Rhûn, as indicated in this map sketch: <figure class="article-thumb tright show-info-icon" style="width: 206px">

<figcaption> Rafshat-nen-Hi </figcaption></figure>
The purpose of the biome is to create a transition biome between Mordor and its Eastern Desolation and to provide a relatively safe passage into and from Núrn for the allied hildor of Mordor. The passage purpose assumes the addition of very dangerous viper snakes as proposed in the abovementioned thread. 
Note that the indicated area mainly replaces parts of the present Eastern Desolation and a small part of the Rhúdel Steppe. 
 <h3> Details </h3>

The biome could be called 'Rafshat-nen-Hi', which would mean 'plains under shadow' in the Black Speech, as it is subject to the shadow of Mordor casted onto the bordering lands.
The biome would be a sub-biome of the Rhúdel Steppe.
There will also be Mordor Orc encampments and camps of Easterlings (and Variags later on), as proposed in abovementioned thread. I assume Mordor pays their hildor vassals for continuous patrols in this region.
Compared to RhunLandSteppe (the sub-biome for Rhúdel Steppe), the Rafshat-nen-Hi has SET_NORMAL as base variant (instead of SET_NORMAL_OAK), will get no additional Forest biome variants, but will get Wasteland biome variant instead and higher variant occurence (0.5-0.7 instead of 0.3).
Both the Pine shrub occurence and getChanceToSpawnAnimals should be halved.
Of course, the setGrass colour will have to be adjusted to mimic the influence of ash clouds regularly afflicting the flora of this land. A grass colour in between that of the Rhúdel Steppe and Rhûn, with some darker teint / decreased saturation could possibly do to bridge the gap between the Eastern Desolation and its fertile neighbouring lands. There is already a one-block thick strip of transition zone in between current Eastern Desolation and Rhúdel/Rhûn: this has about the grass colour palette I would propose this new biome to have.
Mordor orcs and archers should be added to the evil spawn list, just like in Wilderland, and Mordor invasions should be added just like in Wilderland as well, with only difference that Mordor Warg invasion occurence should be Uncommon instead of Rare. No invasions by Dalish forces will occur here.
It would be nice to have viper snakes spawning in that biome as well (as proposed for the Eastern Desolation in abovementioned thread), but without wither effect in their attacks.

<h3> Feedback </h3> Don't hesitate to provide any feedback. I will adjust the proposal based on any clearly valuable additions/corrections brought forward. 
Suggestions like these (considering future improvements, in my view), shouldn't get that much attention in my opinion. I'd rather see people provide feedback on suggestions related to improving existing features, like this and this one. This is posted as a separate suggestion thread, merely because it was deemed fit for this purpose. I did not spend as much effort in thinking this through as I would have on other suggestions though, as I initially posted it as feedback to another suggestion.

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A Fandom user·1/29/2017 in Suggestions archive

[Closed:Expired] Mordor is depressing

Which makes sense, right? That's how its supposed to be. But the problem is it makes it very hard to play as Mordor (to the point of making it miserable). The real problem, in my opinion, is the monotony. Mordor is nothing but endless wastes of black, black, grey, and a bit of red. This could be broken up by great walls of spikes, large fortresses, chasms, rivers of lava (perhaps with forges built next to them), more volcanoes, vast orc camps, not to mention new sub-biomes. The area around the edges of Mordor should be more like scrubland than wierd volcanic desert. Speaking of which, volcanoes make fertile land so it isn't that unreasonable to assume that away from the corrupting influence of Orodruin and Barad-Dur the land could become rather nice. Speaking of which, Mordor is not only depressing but rather unbalanced. Survival-mode players in Mordor have no access to food or wood except from Nurn, forcing them to (Fast) Travel a lot, import grass and crops, or buy food from passing merchants. Again, a large scrublands region could help with this (dead trees to harvest and some useable albiet terrible farmland).

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9koopa·1/5/2017 in Suggestions archive

[Closed:Expired] Mordor Beacons/Morgul Beacons

Everyone knows how Gondor has it's famous Signal Beacons , and how they can be useful for warning others (or even just a non flamable light source), especially on servers. But not just Gondorians use these beacons, that's for sure. My idea is that Evil gets some sort of signal beacon/signal fire (since only Gondorian players can make them), most likely Mordor. Since Mordor is such a large place, even one swarming with Orc guards, it needs some way to communicate if a region is in danger. Mordor Beacons Mordor Beacons would work exactly like a Beacon of Gondor, except they only light Mordor Beacons (It wouldn't make sense for a Gondorian to light a Beacon of Gondor to signal a Mordor Orc). These would look more like braziers than bonfires, and crafted out of Mordor brick instead of cobblestone, but still made out of logs. Morgul Beacons (Note this is most likely laggy due to beacon streams) Morgul Beacons would act similar to the Vanilla beacon, where they shoot up a beam of light, but are fueled by Gulduril, and are doused by covering them. They would offer no potion effects to players unlike the Vanilla beacon, but just give the light into the sky (Note, this last only lasts for a short period of time to compensate, up for debate). They are crafted with Gulduril crystals instead of Logs, and then built by placing Gulduril Blocks in a 3x3 space, then placing the beacon on the top middle. These activate other Morgul Beacons.

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A Fandom user·12/28/2015 in Fun and Games

fake suggestion (the gore update)

can u add an update where npcs bleed when you hit them with swords and if u use axes pink gut particles come out also bile if u use a hammer also can u add torture devices in the gore update and alignment with evil for spiking npcs and good for drownign npcs also pls add an alignemnt with the torture faction found in the land of nurn and if you die you drop a human heart used to craft torture tools and armor and swords and devices fake suggestion dont worry devices: everything found in pain...

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Wargaz cc·11/24/2015 in Community-endorsed Suggestions

[Endorsed] Changes on alignment

I do know that Elves, Men and Dwarves no longer care each other so much as "the Great Evil has led their paths apart", but how about interrelationships among evil factions? Except Uruk-hai of Saruman and Orc from Misty Mountains, they are under the control of Nameless One. Edit: <table class="cquote" style="margin:auto;"><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; width:20px; font-size:36px; font-family:'Times New Roman', serif; font-weight:bold; text-align:left; padding:3px;"> “ </td><td style="vertical-align: top; padding:3px;"> But everywhere he looked he saw the signs of war. The Misty Mountains were crawling like anthills: orcs were issuing out of a thousand holes. Under the boughs of Mirkwood there was deadly strife of Elves and Men and fell beasts. The land of the Beornings was aflame; a cloud was over Moria; smoke rose on the borders of Lórien. Horsemen were galloping on the grass of Rohan; wolves poured from Isengard. From the havens of Harad ships of war put out to sea; and out of the East Men were moving endlessly: swordsmen, spearmen, bowmen upon horses, chariots of chieftains and laden wains. All the power of the Dark Lord was in motion. </td><td style="vertical-align: bottom; width:20px; font-size:36px; font-family:'Times New Roman', serif; font-weight:bold; text-align:right; padding:3px;"> ” </td></tr><tr><td colspan="3" style="padding-top:10px;"><cite style="font-style:normal;">––--The Followship of the Ring, The Breaking of the Fellowship</cite> </td></tr></table>
Now, you gain negative Mordor alignment from killing:

Mordor
Near Harad
Half-troll

You should gain negative Mordor alignment from killing:

Dol Guldur
Angmar
Edit: Gundabad

Explain: Dol Guldur: Although Sauron was cast out of Dol Guldur, but it still control by Nazgûl. In TA 2951 (also known as Shire Reckoning 1351), Sauron declared himself openly and sent three Nazgûl led by Khamûl to reoccupy Dol Guldur. As we know, the mod starts at Shire Reckoning 1401, so Dol Guldur should treat as ally of Mordor. Angmar: Mordor and Angmar just like Gondor of the South and Arnor of North. There are South Kingdom and North Kingdom. Though Angmar is fading, Mordor still care its North kingdom. Just like you gain negative Gondor alignment from killing Rangers of the North. If you doubt that there are too far away from each other, even Pertorogwaith are more distant from Black Land. Edit: Gundabad: According to the quote above, although Gundabad had their own Orcish king, they were at in service of Dark Lord. After the Battle of Five Armies, Gundabad was almost defeated, and the Road from Eriador to Rhovanion was open for travelers. However, since the Bilbo Baggins's Hundred-weight Feast, the War of Ring approaching, Gundabad were becoming more active. They gained the power of the Dark Lord, and wandered downhill from the Mountains. Now you gain negative Dol Guldur alignment from killing:

Dol Guldur
Gundabad

You should gain negative Dol Guldur alignment from killing:

Mordor

Explain: Since Dol Guldur since under control of Nazgûl, they hate the enemy of their master. Now you gain negative Angmar alignment from killing:

Dol Guldur
Gundabad

You should gain negative Angmar alignment from killing: Mordor Explain: Some as the reason above. Edit: Now you gain negative Uruk-hai alignment from killing:

Uruk-hai

You should gain negative Dol Guldur alignment from killing:

Gundabad

Explain: Uruks are cross bred progeny from Gundabad Orcs and Dunlendings. In the section of The Uruk-hai, Uruk-hai worked with Gundabad. Uruk-hai of Saruman also occupied the Misty Mountains with Gundabad, so when you are an enemy of Gundabad, you are becoming an Elf-friend, and Saruman never trusted the Lady of Lórien.

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Wargaz cc·11/18/2015 in Community-endorsed Suggestions

[Endorsed] Several new types of military units

Related suggestion: Adorn, Isengard, and other things by High King Ithilion While I read this category on LoTR wiki, it does remind me a lot of details in the book, and Rohan has neither special nor elite units comparing Uruk-hai and Dunlendings in the mod. They both have berserkers and Dunlendings have Axe-throwers. In order to balance this, as Rohan does have special units in the lore, I decide to suggest 4 new type of units: <h3>Royal Guard of Rohan</h3> Royal Guard of Rohan, or King's Guard of Rohan, are a group of hand-picked men who guarded the King and Golden Hall. They are the most promising warriors of the kingdom. As Royal Guard, they have ability to use both bow and blade, and they can switch them swiftly. You can only hire them from Royal Guard captain. <h3>Helmingas</h3> The Helmingas are the traditional guardians of Helm's Deep. They only lives in Helm's Deep of course. Those brave warrior are skilled in fighting. Helmingas should be archers and axemen. They should be hireable from a marshal. <figure class="article-thumb tleft show-info-icon" style="width: 300px">

<figcaption> We also have a cool morgul horse armour which no NPC currently uses in the mod </figcaption></figure><figure class="article-thumb tright show-info-icon" style="width: 180px">

<figcaption> Horsemen and Witch-king. </figcaption></figure><h3>Minas Morgul Cavalry</h3> <table class="cquote" style="margin:auto;"><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; width:20px; font-size:36px; font-family:'Times New Roman', serif; font-weight:bold; text-align:left; padding:3px;"> “ </td><td style="vertical-align: top; padding:3px;"> "Before them went a great cavalry of horsemen moving like ordered shadows, and at there head was one greater than all the rest: a rider, all in black, save that on his hooded head he wore a helm like a crown that flickered with a perilous light." </td><td style="vertical-align: bottom; width:20px; font-size:36px; font-family:'Times New Roman', serif; font-weight:bold; text-align:right; padding:3px;"> ” </td></tr><tr><td colspan="3" style="padding-top:10px;"><cite style="font-style:normal;">–—The Two Towers: "The Stairs of Cirith Ungol"</cite> </td></tr></table>
Those guys are mounted troops that rode out with the Witch-king of Angmar from Minas Morgul. They are probably Black Numenoreans. As a different group of Black Numenoreans, they only dwell in Minas Morgul. Meanwhile, the Corsairs of Umbar are hard to code, we can introduce them into the mod first. Morgul Knights are corrupted version of Swan Knight, which means their powers are slightly under Knights of Dol Amroth (Black Uruks are already more powerful than Swan Knight.) Thanks for read this, and have a good day! -Wargaz cc

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A Fandom user·8/3/2015 in Suggestions archive

[Closed:Expired] Mordor could become worse than you think (mordor content suggestion)

I think mordor should be even more op I think it should have mordor altars like in dol guldur and it should have mordor cave trolls all npcs will be hireable cave trolls like Olog hai but weaker yet unaffected by sun then morrannon orcs who have better stats then orcs but less then uruks and there own armor then also there should be snagae archers and soldiers as basic troops that are super cheap and weak also I want warg riding snagae and we all want wraiths and minas morgul cavalry which are wraith horsemen (not ringwraiths just blade victim wraiths) note that wraiths need very high alignment barad dur biome should also exist with a fiery gorgoroth as it's embodiment a very flaming one also pls add nurn builders and snagae miners and lumberjacks for nurn npcs in fact wraiths should be like angmar orc warriors with skulls for heads sincerely a wikia contributer make mordor op pls

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Snaper6010·3/9/2015 in Suggestions archive

[Closed:Expired] Morgul Spears

I was commenting earlier today on an RP or something, and I got the idea of a Morgul Rapid Spear Thrower. That wasn't that LotR, so I dumbed it down to one thing- a Morgul Spear. It isn't exactly canon, but neither is Naurite or Quendite. So, here's what i think it should look like, but this shouldn't be the final model, since I'm not an artist or anything. <figure class="article-thumb tleft " style="width: 16px">

<figcaption>Sorry for not having the elongated handheld image :( </figcaption></figure>sorry for it being so small, but it is 16x16... Sorry for not providing the elongated handheld model, I don't know how to make them. 
Anyway, for what it does: . Be a normal spear .apply the wither effect when hitting something or throwing at it and it hitting it's mark. anyways, see me in my next post- Are the Moredain Planned? ...Or are they HERE?

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