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Korokan·2/8/2022 in Suggestions forum

Orcs and man-flesh

Don't you think there should be an interaction between orcs and man-flesh?

Here I suggest:

a special mini-quest where they ask some man-flesh to players (it could be implemented in all possibilities for gathering food mini-quests)

When there is man-flesh to the ground nearby, orcs would rush to take and eat it. Opposing to orc-draught or maggoty bread, man-flesh would fully restore their health bar in one shot. (if you worry your own hired orcs steal man-flesh you want harvest, only non-hired orcs would look for man-flesh at ground)
And finally, the possibility to directly give man-flesh to an orc by right-clic on them by holding a hunk of man-flesh. Doing it would give +1 alignment to the faction of the orc to the player and/or the orc will give something to the player in return. (a bit like trading gold with piglins) They could give you orc steel, maggoty bread, orc-draught, morgul-draught, gulduril, rotten flesh, suspicous meat, bones, arrows, poison bottles, sticks and so on. But be warned! Orcs might don't give you anything and just say thanks. Because orcs are treacherous creatures! Don't expect much gratitude from them, even for some man-flesh.

The suggest is done. You can leave now.

Edit: And trading man-flesh with an orc would give you a new achievement: "Looks like meat back on the menu boys!"

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Drour1234·11/12/2021 in General

A Unique Perspective On The Mewlips Poem.

Here is an interesting analysis of The Mewlips from the Adventures of Tom Bombadil that changed my perspective of the poem:

https://atolkienistperspective.wordpress.com/2018/09/28/the-shadows-where-the-mewlips-really-dwell-mapping-the-road-to-mordor/amp/

“The Shadows Where the Mewlips [really] dwell” – Mapping the road to Mordor?A Tolkienist's Perspective

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Dour1234·7/5/2021 in General

The Dwarves of Rhun

I have an idea about how the Dwarves of the Orocarni and the Dwarves of the Wind could be integrated into the mod. Specifically my idea is for the Dwarves of The Wind. My whole ideas revolves around the fact that the four eastern clans of Dwarves fought in the Dwarf-Goblin War. I believe that to make to Dwarves of The Wind stand out, they should have something unique to them. Now I just want to say that my idea is just my idea and this is just one idea I have. I think that they should have Orc and Troll slaves. Mostly Troll slaves. I know that on the surface level, it doesn’t make sense, but hear me out. The Orocarni is the home of all four Dwarf clans, however, it is literally the same size as the Ered Luin. The Ered Luin only has two of the Dwarf clans. Maybe the Dwarves of The Wind are Dwarves who were cast out of the four eastern clans after the Dwarf-Goblin War for their immoral practice. However, despite being outcasts, these Dwarves settled into the Mountains of The Wind, mining for precious metals while their Troll slaves provided shelter from the wind and their Orc slaves providing protection to the gates of their cities. The Dwarves of The Wind occasionally would send out raiding parties into neighboring lands and even sometimes within the edges of Mordor itself. While their slaves are prevented from escaping (I don’t know how), they are treated far better than the lawless land of Mordor (I know that Sauron controls Mordor, but there are so many fights between Orcs that Sauron does not care enough about to resolve peacefully. Despite all this, there should still be slave revolts in the Mountains of the Wind as would Orcs and Trolls be able to control their need to fight.

I don’t know if my idea is a good one, but it certainly adds some moral ambiguity to a potential faction.

Regarding the Dwarves of the Orocarni, I think that it should be one faction with four sub factions since they literally all went to aid in the Dwarf-Goblin War with no disputes between them. This leads me to believe that they are all separate but operate under a single banner. However, they should all hate the Dwarves of The Wind despite all of them being good factions and the Wind Dwarves being a not quite evil faction.

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Dour1234·4/17/2021 in General

Creatures and Races of Arda.

These are some minor and somewhat major mobs that I would like to see eventually added to the mod. I found all this information on Tolkien Gateway:

Kirinki: This was one of the many species of birds found in Numenor, and doubtless Amen, that were not known in Middle-Earth. The kirinki were said to be smaller than wrens, with bright scarlet feathers, and voices so high that they could hardly be heard by Men. I think that the Kirinki should spawn exclusively in Meneltarna

Gorcrows: I know that these birds are already in the mod, but I have a few suggestions. They should croak in their sleep, and the Long Marshes should have a tiny subbiome called the marsh of Tode. Gorcrows should spawn there instead of the Long Marshes itself. Gorcrows are said to have a 4 ft. wingspan and to be smaller cousins of the crebain, and to be attracted to shiny things. They should also spawn in the Lone-lands and appear frequently in Mordor. There should also be a variant called the Northern Gorcrow, spawning within Forodwaith. This variant should be a larger version of the common gorcrow. The Lossoth are said to regard the northern gorcrows as birds of ill-omen. My suggestion is that they could attack similarly to Minecraft Phantoms, swooping down to attack before flying back up again.

Pards: These were feline creatures. Apparently the pards lived in wooded lands of the East (perhaps referring to the lands beyond Rhun, the Uttermost East). The beast, "fleet upon feet", leaped on its prey from above. At the Bodleian Library in Oxford are kept several manuscripts of medieval bestiaries containing descriptions of the legendary pard. The animal is described as very swift, killing its prey with a single leap. It was believed that the mating of a pard and a lion produced the leopard. In 1962 Tolkien published the poem “Cat,” which, carrying many similarities with this medieval notion, shows that he was likely familiar with these manuscripts.

Lintips: were mysterious creatures only mentioned in verse. They appear at night under the moon; Tom wondered whether they slide down from the Moon, or come in star-winks. Apparently they are very small, and smell mousy.

Tom noticed them from their smell, one night they came too early; he told them to drink up the dew from the grass, but minding his feet. They just ran away and laughed at him to Tom's dismay who wished them to stay, leaving him complaining that they are the only things that won't talk to him, and wondered if they hide something.

Hummerhorns: These were a race of winged insects. The hummerhorns are described as aggressive creatures, weighing 6-8 lbs and resembling gigantic black and grey wasps. They probably should spawn in the Midgewater Marshes. They should also spawn as a variant of the Minecraft Bee.

Dumbledors: These are described as being large winged insects weighing 6-8 pounds, carrying illness or poison, and to live in the Midgewater Marshes. Because they are another word for Bees, they should spawn as a variant of the Minecraft Bee.

The Swans of Gorbelgod: These were a race of Swans remembered in legend on Numenor. They were white and of an unusually great size. Little else is known about these creatures, or about the location of Gorbelgod. In a manuscript, J.R.R. Tolkien used the name Dur nor-Belgoth and changed it later to Gorbelgod. I think that these should maybe spawn alongside the Kirinki.

Turtle-fish: These were a legendary race of giant sea monsters. The last of the Turtle-fish was named Fastitocalon. Turtle-fish appeared as treacherous islands, really being monsters capable of drowning seafarers. It is never explained whether the turtle-fish was an actual race or just a fictional character for the poem "Fastitocalon". In an earlier version of the legendarium, Ulmo, Lord of the Waters, uses his giant whale, Uin, to drag Tol Eressea towards Aman. This whale reappears in J.R.R. Tolkien’s story “Roverandom.” It is thinkable that Tolkien, in an early phase of the mythology, imagined the Fastitocalon to be another one of Ulmo's creatures. The Turtle-fish could maybe spawn in Belegar. These creatures are what I really most want to see in the mod. Even if they are added in the form of lore books.

Were-worms: These were creatures of an unknown kind, possibly mythical and presumably related to Dragons, that were said to dwell in the Last Desert. Thus Were-worms, if they did exist, could be a man-like type of Dragon, though this must remain in the realm of speculation.

Sea-serpents: These were also called the Fish-dragons, were a breed of dragons only mentioned fleetingly in Elvish linguistic writings. No story tells of their appearance in the history of Arda. Water Drakes, or Water Serpents, are drakes who have adapted to a life in freshwater pools or in the ocean. The smaller varieties, who only live in fresh-water, are called Rain-drakes, or Lake-worms, while the larger, who prey in all types of water, are called True Water-drakes or Sea Serpents. An individual Water-drake, Séahmatha, or Lake Serpent in the tongue of the Northmen, inhabits the Long Lake.

Great Beasts: were used to pull the battering ram Grond during the siege of Minas Tirith. Whether these beasts of burden used by Sauron were a foul breed of Mumakil, or a race of unknown animals from distant lands, is impossible to say for certain as we lack a more detailed description of the creatures. In The Lord of The Rings Online, the great beasts are depicted as warty, multi-horned rhinoceros-like creatures known as "Sûlokil". They can be found on the Plateau of Gorgoroth.

Glowworms: These were tiny animals which glimmered in dark environments. Glowworms are also said to have been creeping about the borders of the deep pools of Murmuran. Maybe when the mod gets updated to 1.17, these Glowworms could spawn in the Deepslate layer.

Great Glow-worms: are said to have crept about the grassy borders of Olore Malle, the Path of Dreams. As these creatures are mentioned only fleetingly, it is impossible to say if they were related to wingless dragons or if they were giant versions of regular Glowworms. One can assume however that they glowed in the dark. Maybe when the mod gets updated to 1.17, these creatures could spawn in the Deepslate layer.

Spark-dragons: These were a wingless breed of dragons of whom all that is known is from the nomenclature by the Eldar. No story tells of their appearance in the history of Arda, but one can assume that somehow they radiated light. They prefer to fight with their tails, which hold an electrically charged fluid that delivers a sting analogous to the impact of a lightning bolt. Maybe when the mod gets updated to 1.17, these creatures could spawn in the Deepslate layer. There could also be an Utumno variant spawning in the fire layer of Utumno.

Neekerbreekers: These were large and loud insects related to crickets. They dwelt in the Midgewater Marshes and squeaked all through the night, calling "neek-breek, breek-neek.” Samwise Gamgee gave them the name Neekerbreekers. Neekerbreekers were named so because of their sound, perhaps like that of a cricket. These actually exist in the lore, so they should be added.

Ogres: These were monstrous and destructive creatures of legend and folklore of Middle-Earth, although it cannot be said if they indeed existed.

During the Riddle-game with Gollum, Bilbo Baggins, in his attempt to solve Gollum's fifth riddle, sat thinking of all the horrible names of all the giants and ogres he had ever heard told of in tales. No ogre is ever mentioned in the annals of the Elder Days and none played any role in the wars and battles. It is entirely possible that they were a mythical race.

It is also possible that Ogre was just another name for the Trolls. They are mentioned as cannibal Giants. Those of the north were known as Hongwir while the southern ones were named Sarqindi. Sarqindi is glossed as "Cannibal-ogres", and hongwir might be related to the Qenya word ongwe, meaning pain. Tolkien mentioned again ogres out of context in analyses of the name Orc: "...the gloss Þyrs ogre...,” and of the name Ettendales: "This is meant to be a Common Speech name, though it contains an obsolete element eten’troll, ogre’.”

Hobgoblin: This was a name “for the larger kinds" of Orcs found in Middle-Earth within the Third Age. In the quest for Erebor, Gandalf warns warns Bilbo Baggins that the Grey Mountains are "simply stiff with goblins, hobgoblins, and orcs of the worst description". Hobgoblins are a breed of large, tusked Orcs found in the Grey Mountains.

Gongs: These are evil beings that appear in “The Book of Lost Tales,” the earliest version of what would become The Silmarillion. In his commentary, Christopher Tolkien remarks that they are obscurely related to Orcs, perhaps as a sub-race of the species. There are no references to Gongs in J.R.R. Tolkien’s later legendarium. Mim commanded a guard of Orcs and Gongs to protect the treasures of Glorund in Nargothrond. They were slain by Hurin and his companions. The Gnomish word sithagong is glossed as dragonfly, with sitha being the word for fly.

Mewlips: These were a legendary race of evil creatures only mentioned in verse. The creatures were likely fictitious, although they could have been inspired by a faction of Orcs. Living beyond the Merlock Mountains and in the marsh of Tode, they are said to have fed on passers-by, collecting their bones in a sack. In “The Hobbit, Bilbo Baggins learned that the Long Marshes had grown wider, consuming paths and lost people. In plot notes that J.R.R. Tolkien made while writing the story, the raftsmen told tales of disappearing rafts, men, and beasts; the more ominous line in the notes may indicate that Tolkien had some unpleasantness in mind had Thorin and Company gotten into the marshes - perhaps meeting the Mewlips. It is likely that maybe the marsh of Tode in the verse refers to the Long Marshes and the Merlock Mountains refers to either the Misty Mountains or the Mirkwood Mountains. Maybe the Mewlips could be a derogatory term the dwarves called the Wood Elves. However, in my opinion, they should appear in the mod as an evil faction in the Long Marshes that inspire the verse.

White Wolves: These were a type of wolf native to the frozen lands in the north of Middle-Earth. They were not normally seen in Eriador, but seem to have remained among the snows of the Forodwaith and perhaps beyond. In the year T.A. 2911, one of the harshest winters in Middle-earth's history descended, the so-called Fell Winter. The ice and snow of the north came at least as far south as the Shire. With them came the White Wolves, invading Eriador and roaming as far as the Shire. The frozen Brandywine River meant that they were even able to cross into the Eastfarthing. This was the last time the Horn-call of Buckland was used before the War of the Ring, one hundred and seven years later. If these wolves are added to the mod, they should spawn in Forochel, the Angmar Mountains, and Forodwaith.

Werewolves: These were servants of Sauron, bred in the Elder Days from wolves and inhabited by dreadful spirits that Sauron had imprisoned in their bodies. Werewolves were created, or a least corrupted from some other form, by Sauron, who was their master, and who took the shape of a great wolf himself at least once. The first werewolf was Draugluin, and the greatest was Carcharoth, the guardian of Angband, a descendant of Draugluin as all other werewolves were. In the “Grey Annals,” it is told that "creatures that walked in wolf-shapes," entered Beleriand in the Valian Year 1330. Although not appearing as such in the known written records of Arda during the Second and Third Ages, Gandalf mentioned the werewolves as being among Sauron's servants in the late Third Age, along with orcs, trolls, wargs, and wraiths. In Sindarin, werewolves were called gaurhoth. The Quenya name was nauro. They cannot transform themselves into Men, although they can alter shape into being able to stand upright while remaining Wolf-like. Due to Werewolves being absent in the Third Age, maybe when the mod gets updated to 1.17, these creatures could spawn in the Deepslate layer. They could spawn in Werewolf Dens scattered throughout the Deepslate layer. There could also be an Utumno variant spawning in the Obsidian layer of Utumno.

Vampires: These were mysterious bat-like creatures in the service of Morgoth and of Sauron. The only vampire whose name is recorded in the annals of Arda is Sauron’s servant Thuringwethil, but Sauron himself took the form of a vampire on at least one occasion, to flee Huan. Vampires are described as former Maia patrons of normal bats, but corrupted by Morgoth and transformed into man-sized bats with the faces of hideous Men or Women, having the ability to change shape. A related creature is also envisioned, the Blood-wight, which is an undead Mannish shapechanger, draining blood from living beings. Due to Vampires being absent in the Third Age, maybe when the mod gets updated to 1.17, these creatures could spawn in the Deepslate layer. They could spawn in Vampire Nests scattered throughout the Deepslate layer. There could also be an Utumno variant spawning in the Obsidian layer of Utumno.

Goblins: I know that Goblin is used interchangeably with Orcs, but I propose that the Orcs of Moria and Goblin Town should be renamed to Goblins. Also Orcs of the Grey Mountains should be renamed to Hobgoblins.

Badger-Folk: The Badger-folk lived in secret houses connected by tunnels under a hill in, or nearby, the Old Forest. They appear to have been sentient and capable of speaking. Although Badger-brock once forcefully brought down Tom Bombadil to their burrows, the Badger-folk do not appear as truly evil creatures, but perhaps rather cunning or tricky.

Gostir: This creature was one of the Dragons of Morgoth about whom almost nothing is known except its name. Gostir means dread glance in Noldorin, from gost, which means dread and terror; and thîr, which means to look, face, expression, countenance. The older form of the name was Gorsthir. I think that maybe Gostir could be added to the mod as a boss. He could spawn in a generated structure called Gostir’s Lair in Forodwaith. Defeating him would provide the coordinates of Utumno.

I think that all of these ideas should be added in some form or another in the mod eventually.

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Elbuis·4/4/2020 in Suggestions forum

Major Gundabad Expansion

<p>Hi guys, Gundabad is one of the least developed factions in the mod, they don't exactly have a lot going for them. We decided to attempt to change that in this suggestion, which suggests a bunch of new structures, npcs, subfactions and textures. It also features a lot of these structures and textures already designed and attached. </p><p>However, we didn't really know wiki formatting very well, so we decided to make a pdf for it to help us manage the thing. So the link to the pdf is below, and you can check out the suggestion from there. </p><p>
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zBIut_FxnLMex90qDf1NM8OUKkY6xlld/view </p>

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Notverygoodusername·1/4/2019 in Suggestions forum

Making wargs useful

<p>As a player primarly playing in evil factions, I've noticed that wargs tend to be pretty much useless as both mounts and hired units. So, I suggest just a little bit of a buff for them. </p><p>First of all, warg health should be increased from between 18 and 40 to between 30 and 40. Why? Because such low health just doesn't make sense compared to the health of some other mobs. Lions, which are actually supposed to be much smaller animals, already have 40 health (in this mod tho, they appear to be around the same size for some reason..). Increasing hit points would also make them a bit more useful for combat, since while playing Durin's folk I noticed that warg invasions are ridiculously easy to defeat compared to any other invasions. </p><p>Second, their speed. All the wargs except for some Gundabad wargs, tend to be useless as mounts since their speed is so slow. Even for Gundabad wargs, finding one which could even get close to a swift horse or a rhino, is very difficult. So, I suggest, that their speed as mounts is increased. Gundabad wargs should be somewhere around Rohirric horses (after all, they are supposed to outrun you..) and the other faction wargs shouldn't be the speed of a giraffe. </p><p>Last, but not the least, wargs should be able to jump while mounted. They clearly can jump while not mounted, I constantly see them trying to hump walls and other things that get in their way. They definitly did jump in the movies and pretty sure that so did they in the books. Their jump wouldn't be as impressive as horses of Rohan, but 2-3 blocks of jump height would already make them way more useful. </p>

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Notverygoodusername·1/1/2019 in Suggestions forum

Alignment & fear

<p>So, you may take a hundred soldiers and attack a town, but instead of trying to save their lives, the citizens reach for their tools and run to suicide... </p><p>That shall be no more! </p><p>Every civilian NPC (yes, including elves) should now run from you when you have -500 alignment with their faction. Also, they should flee from elite units (uruks, tower guards, golden easterlings...) of enemy factions. As a (off-topic?) sidenote, no more hiring civilian units from warlord NPC-s. </p><p>The current way of orcs fleeing makes them ridiculous in most cases, so I suggest, bring up the alignment requirement for them to flee from -500 to -1000. Also, orcish banner bearers & orc bombardiers should count as "stronger allies" & never flee themselves. Orcs would also attack if there are 10 or more of them in their attack radius. </p><p>Hobbit shiriffs are even more ridiculous than orcs. Going after a dark lord with a slingshot? At -500 alignment, shiriff raids would no longer occur and any existing shiriffs will also flee. Maybe they could be be replaced by ranger attacks that work with the same function, but that would go way too off-topic. </p>

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Hûkrag·11/25/2018 in Community-endorsed Suggestions

[Endorsed] Orc Names

<p>So i was recalling all the orcs that I had the pleasure of meeting, when I remembered that I had seen three Shagbegs in two days of wandering across Mordor. Oh, and I also saw another orc named Marlin, (died in a skirmish, rip) and I was very interested as to how an orc attained the name of Marlin. I looked at all the prefixes and suffixes of an orc name, and found out it was possible. So I made a random orc name generator to stop Marlins, Botpits, Ufufs, and all other sorts of names from happening. </p><p>How it works </p><p>There are two parts to an orcs name, a prefix and a suffix. The prefix will be known as P, and the suffix will be known as S. </p><p>Prefixes </p><p>Prefixes have two patterns, and each pattern has different components. Pattern one is CVN, where C is a capital letter from a list that is below, V is a vowel also from the list below, and N is a ending sound for an prefix (can be multiple consonants stringed together, like -rz or -sh) which is also shown in the list below. Pattern two is AN, where A is a capital vowel from a list below, and N is the same as above. </p><p>C: "P"(r/l/hr)/"T"(r/hr/h)/"K"(r/hr/l)/"S"(n/h/hr/l/k/t)/"M"/"N"/"H"/"G"(r/l/hr/h)/"R"/"D"(l/r/hr)/"Z"/"L"/"B"(l/r/hr)/"Y" </p><p>V: a/o/u/û/ú/â </p><p>N: g/k/sh/rz/l/r/z/rg/t/rk </p><p>A: "A"/"O"/"U"/"Û"/"Ú"/"I"/"Â" </p><p>Suffixes </p><p>Suffixes have 4 patterns, three of which are extremely similar. The first is -za, the second is -sha, and the third is -ga. The fourth pattern is BVD, where B is pulled from a list below, and is the beginning of the suffix of an Orc's name, V is the same as above, and D is the ending of the suffix of an Orc's name, but is different from N (stated above) because I couldn't have an Mighty Black Uruk called Uflaf. That sounds like the name of a bunny. </p><p>B: p(r/l/hr)/t(r/hr/h)/k(r/hr/l)/s(n/h/hr/l/k/t)/m/n/h/g(r/l/hr/h)/r/d(l/r/hr)/z/l/b(l/r/hr) </p><p>V: See above </p><p>D: g/kh/sh/rz/l/k/f/t/r/z/rf/nk </p><p>Examples </p><p>I ran twenty names on my generator (again) (website is called awkwords, not advertising), and I got these names. </p><p>Rûzdrur Sârkghrâk Âkga Skazmur Huztorz Sûshza Uzbat Irzga Âgmak Ûglût Sorgakh Lârsnak Pârdat Hogmúsh Snugtorz Ârglor Thâgshor Ûthok Mûzdarf Ûrzúr </p><p>of course i had to keep this prime example; Gutrash </p><p>I mean they work </p><p>The amount of names that I can make totals to 802230 (EDIT: probably more because I added some stuff)(EDIT: 7332990 words now), so you won't be seeing any duplicates. I also ran 1000 names on my generator, and I only got 2 duplicates, so it must be pretty good, right? </p><p>ok thanks for reading </p><p>Edit: Orc Names by Race (Suggested by Hobbityhop) </p><p>So we all know there are the mighty Uruk of The Eye, The Mountains, and The Hand, and then the Orcs of Angmar, Dol Guldur, and Mordor. Then there are the Scum of Uruk-kind, the Snaga, and Gundabad-rats. Each of these races will have different lists for C,V,N,A,B and D, although they will be mostly the same. </p><p>Gundabad: See Snagae in the Doc. </p><p>Mordor: The above list is the Mordor one. </p><p>Angmar, Dol Guldur, Snagae, and all Uruks will be shown on this doc. </p><p>https://docs.google.com/document/d/16UFoKqPW51LF-rwPYfMzlZssY2m1n9UL_o46ladU9Fw/edit?usp=sharing </p>

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AgsterDark·6/13/2017 in Skin Requests

Anyone that got some of the orc skins from the mod?

<p>If any of you guys got the some of the orc skins from the mod, please send them to my. </p><p>- Agster </p>

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Campinator·5/28/2017 in Lore Texts

[Implemented] Evil Prose

<p>After writing some Hobbit Poetry, I was in a poem mood, and tried to write some for evil factions. This may get expanded later, but here are the few I have so far: </p> <hr>

#title:Off to Barad-dûr
#author:{Orc Name}
#types:mordor,angmar, dol_guldur,gundabad
#
#by Campinator
#A marching chant
#
The night is long and the day is bright
but we, the orcs, don't need a light.
We scatter enemies in fright
on our way to Barad-dûr.
#
Work, work, work, lads!
We're off to Barad-dûr.
#
Our enemies they run in fear
when our tramping footsteps gather near
and so we march and march and march and march.
For we're off to Barad-dûr.
#
Work, work, work, lads!
We're off to Barad-dûr.
#
Over the mountains tall and cold
we venture everywhere, so bold!
And then we turn to that stronghold
the mighty Barad-dûr.
#
Work, work, work, lads!
We're off to Barad-dûr.

<hr><p>Note: if mentions of pixelated Nurn slavery has the potential to offend you, don't read this. Shouldn't be necessary but it's 2017... </p> <div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">

#title:A Slave's Lament
#author:Nurn Slave
#types:mordor
#
#by Campinator
#
The master's whip makes fearful slaves
But still we work among the wheat.
For what is left but fearful knaves
after we've been harshly beat?

</div> <hr><p>If you're not a maggot, step up and throw some advice at me. </p>

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Campinator·5/3/2017 in Suggestions archive

[Closed:Expired] The Names of Orcs

<p>As many of you may be aware, the naming procedure for Orcs was recently changed to be "randomized". What this means is that there is a list of Orc Prefixes and Suffixes, and one from each list is chosen at random and then put together to make a new name. </p><p>While this adds greatly to the immersion and cuts back on code a few bytes, there are a few inconsistencies I have noticed. </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Changes">Changes</span></h2> Under the current system, there are suffixes of

Push

Maggot

Scum

and

Stink

Although others have some inconsistencies when paired with certain suffixes, these in particular are far too Westron-sounding to be used as Orcish names. In addition, they create some very crude names in some cases, as in Stinkmaggot or Scumbag. <p>To rectify this, I propose changing Push- to Pras(z)h-, Stink- to Sikh-, Scum- to Gar-, and -maggot to -mug. This would replace the Westron names with more Black-Speechlike affixes. </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Removals">Removals</span></h2> <p>The suffix -snaga is currently available, while in actuality, that was only given as a title to slaves. This could possibly be changed to another suffix, but it most certainly should not be a possible name </p><p>To Mevans: A part of this suggestion was planned to deal with duplicate names, as many affixes appear on both lists. However, upon testing my theory, no Orcs with duplicate names appeared. Is this just coincidence, or does one of the functions in LOTREntityOrc prevent this? </p>

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9koopa·1/5/2017 in Suggestions archive

[Closed:Expired] Mordor Beacons/Morgul Beacons

<p>Everyone knows how Gondor has it's famous Signal Beacons , and how they can be useful for warning others (or even just a non flamable light source), especially on servers. But not just Gondorians use these beacons, that's for sure. </p><p>My idea is that Evil gets some sort of signal beacon/signal fire (since only Gondorian players can make them), most likely Mordor. Since Mordor is such a large place, even one swarming with Orc guards, it needs some way to communicate if a region is in danger. </p><p>Mordor Beacons </p><p>Mordor Beacons would work exactly like a Beacon of Gondor, except they only light Mordor Beacons (It wouldn't make sense for a Gondorian to light a Beacon of Gondor to signal a Mordor Orc). These would look more like braziers than bonfires, and crafted out of Mordor brick instead of cobblestone, but still made out of logs. </p><p>Morgul Beacons </p><p>(Note this is most likely laggy due to beacon streams) </p><p>Morgul Beacons would act similar to the Vanilla beacon, where they shoot up a beam of light, but are fueled by Gulduril, and are doused by covering them. They would offer no potion effects to players unlike the Vanilla beacon, but just give the light into the sky (Note, this last only lasts for a short period of time to compensate, up for debate). They are crafted with Gulduril crystals instead of Logs, and then built by placing Gulduril Blocks in a 3x3 space, then placing the beacon on the top middle. These activate other Morgul Beacons. </p>

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Mordor (Biome)Orc Beacon of Gondor Gulduril

LysurusPeriphragmoides789·6/25/2016 in Community-endorsed Suggestions

[Endorsed] Come forth Uruks of Dol Guldur!

<p>There have been several suggestions to bolster Dol Guldur's armies, and for good reason. Prior to the addition of Gundabad Uruks, Gundabad was the punchbag of Middle Earth. Now, they have given that not so honourable title to Dol Guldur. True, they have Mirk-trolls, but they are rare and expensive, and ineffective at confined combat. I hereby provide a suggestion for Dol Guldur Uruks. These would be equal to Gundabad Uruks in every aspect, and give Dol Guldur a huge bolster in strength. This is also likely to be canon, as Dol Guldur was often reinforced with troops from mordor, and that includes Uruks. Now, I present the textures I have compiled. </p> <nav id="toc" class="toc" data-loaded="false"><div id="toctitle"><h2>Contents</h2><span class="toctoggle">[show]</span></div>

</nav><h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Guldur_Uruk_Melee_Weapons">Guldur Uruk Melee Weapons</span></h2> <p>

A Guldur Uruk Dagger. </p><p>

A Poisoned Guldur Uruk Dagger. </p><p>

A Guldur Uruk cleaver. </p><p>

A Guldur Uruk Waraxe. </p><p>

A Guldur Uruk Bludgeon. </p><p>

A Guldur Uruk Spear. </p><p>

A Guldur Uruk Pike. </p><p>

</p><p>These weapons would be crafted on a Dol Guldur Crafting table in the same way as Gundabad Uruk equipment. They would have a base damage of 7. Now for the bow. </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Guldur_Uruk_Bow">Guldur Uruk Bow</span></h2> <p>

</p><p>A Guldur Uruk Bow and its drawing phases. </p><p>
The Guldur Uruk Bow would be quicker to draw than its Gundabad Counterpart, but deal slightly less damage. The range would be roughly equal. It would be be wielded by the archer units of the Guldur Uruks. It would be crafted with Uruk Steel on a Dol Guldur crafting table. Now, let's look at the armour. </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Guldur_Uruk_Armour">Guldur Uruk Armour</span></h2> <p>

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</p><p>The armour would have the same stats as Gundabad Uruk armour, and be crafted on a Dol Guldur crafting table with Uruk Steel ingots. </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Unit_Hiring">Unit Hiring</span></h2> <p>With 300 Dol Guldur alignment, you can hire the standard Guldur Uruk for 35 silver coins. With 350 alignment, the Guldur Uruk Archers become available, costing 40 coins apiece. At 400 alignment, you can hire Guldur Uruk Banner Bearers at 50 silver coins each. In order to induce balance, their counterparts from Gundabad should also follow this pricing scheme, in addition to recieving their own banner bearers. </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Other">Other</span></h2> <p>Guldur Uruks will spawn throughout Dol Guldur, and be about as common there as Gundabad Uruks are in the Misty Mountains. To counter that, Trolls should be much less common. In invasions, I think that the ideas of having them as part of Dol Guldur invasions or launching their own Uruk invasions are both plausible. That will be up to Mevans to decide. In addition, the Dol Guldur Orc Chieftain should be reworked to look like a Guldur Uruk, but without a helmet and wielding a skull staff. </p>

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Dol Guldur (Biome)Orc

LysurusPeriphragmoides789·6/23/2016 in Community-endorsed Suggestions

[Endorsed] Orcish Gates

<p>In response to requests from several users, I have deicded to formulate a suggestion centred around giving Orcish factions their own unique gates. I am in the process of designing Gundabad, Dol Guldur, Angmar, Black Uruk and Morgul gates, with the current Orc gate being gifted to Mordor. Currently, I have just completed the Gundabad one. </p> <nav id="toc" class="toc" data-loaded="false"><div id="toctitle"><h2>Contents</h2><span class="toctoggle">[show]</span></div>

</nav><h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Gundabad_Gate">Gundabad Gate</span></h2> <p>The Gundabad gate will replace Orc gates as the opening to ruined Dwarven towers. It will be crafted with wood planks (diagonally adjacent to the gate gear) and Uruk Steel Ingots (vertically and horizontally adjacent to the gate gear) on a Gundabad crafting table. I present the textures. </p> <div class="center"><div class="floatnone">

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Add a photo to this gallery</div> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Angmar_Gate">Angmar Gate</span></h2> <p>Now for the Angmar gates. These would be crafted by surrounding a gate gear with eight Orc Steel on an Angmar crafting table. They would replace the regular Orc gates in Angmar towers. </p> <div class="center"><div class="floatnone">

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Add a photo to this gallery</div> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Dol_Guldur_Gate">Dol Guldur Gate</span></h2> <p>The Dol Guldur gate will replace Orc gates on Dol Guldur towers. It will be crafted with Orc steel and rotten wood on a Dol Guldur crafting table. </p> <div class="center"><div class="floatnone">

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Add a photo to this gallery</div> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Black_Uruk_Gate">Black Uruk Gate</span></h2> <p>This gate would currently be available to players only. It would be crafted on a Morgul Crafting Table with eight Black Uruk steel ingots around a gate gear. </p> <div class="center"><div class="floatnone">

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Orc Gate

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AlteOgre·3/30/2016 in General Mod Discussion

Orc reproduction

<p>This topic was recently touched upon in a number of threads. I started this thread to avoid off-topic cluttering of those threads and to offer a thread for free lore interpretation and speculation, and for discussion on mod features that need some supportive narrative regarding this subject. </p><p>My view on this unscrupulous, evil bred and selected spawn: </p>

There must be male and female orcs involved to achieve the variety of orcs as seen in lore.
Selective and forced breeding would be a way to achieve high output of disposable forces.
To produce individuals that lack compassion and empathy, young children were likely detached from their mother at a very young age, likely even taken from the womb before they were born.
The fate of female orcs was to breed. After forcedly giving birth, of a possibly non-full-grown baby, they would have been disposed of ... unless they would have been able to breed again.
After forced detachment from the mothers body, the foetuses would have been brought in sinister breeding environments ('Warrens' - source/inspiration: Fall from Heaven II), where they would have been forcefully nourished to grow beyond the normal 'baby' stage before they were released from their containment and be born into a cruel world.
Their initial (male) longevity may have been high, as they descend from elvish bloodlines.
Selection would have created types of orcs, both male and female, optimally fit for local circumstances. The selection process would involve the brutal disposal of any unfit individual.
Separate, scattered groups of orcs may have adopted less cruel methods in time, but the 'standard' would have been very cruel anyway, as it was determined in Angband, by the instigator of all evil himself.

<p>Your turn folks! What do you think? </p>

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A Fandom user·8/3/2015 in Suggestions archive

[Closed:Expired] Mordor could become worse than you think (mordor content suggestion)

<p>I think mordor should be even more op I think it should have mordor altars like in dol guldur and it should have mordor cave trolls all npcs will be hireable cave trolls like Olog hai but weaker yet unaffected by sun then morrannon orcs who have better stats then orcs but less then uruks and there own armor then also there should be snagae archers and soldiers as basic troops that are super cheap and weak also I want warg riding snagae and we all want wraiths and minas morgul cavalry which are wraith horsemen (not ringwraiths just blade victim wraiths) note that wraiths need very high alignment barad dur biome should also exist with a fiery gorgoroth as it's embodiment a very flaming one also pls add nurn builders and snagae miners and lumberjacks for nurn npcs in fact wraiths should be like angmar orc warriors with skulls for heads sincerely a wikia contributer make mordor op pls </p>

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