All posts by War Pig1237
I would implore you all to view this 'Google Document' which myself and High King Ithilion have created as it regards the issue discussed above!
Whilst I am reasonably fond of your proposals in regard to the Folk of the Harhûdor 'Sub-Continent', I should like to ask you not to award Kudos to your own Thread Lazulisheep!
As we approach the release of Public Beta Thirty-one, I would like to announce that I intend to concern myself chiefly with creation and development of Biome, Tree and Item Pages during the coming days!
I highly doubt the Men of Gondor, and more chiefly the Rohirrim, would ever have found it in their hearts to participate in such evil practices, even against those who they considered to be lesser or 'Swarthy' Men.
Nonetheless, there is a passage from The Two Towers' eighth Chapter which tells of the victorious Helmingas putting surrendered Wildmen to work repairing the Deeping-Coomb following the Battle of the Hornburg. However, it can be deduced that this is more so punishment or something of a cautionary statement as the labour in question comes with a certain mercy and the promise of eventual release.
| “ | But a great many of the hillmen had given themselves up; and they were afraid, and cried for mercy.
The Men of the Mark took their weapons from them, and set them to work. ‘Help now to repair the evil in which you have joined,’ said Erkenbrand; ‘and afterwards you shall take an oath never again to pass the Fords of Isen in arms, nor to march with the enemies of Men; and then you shall go free back to your land. For you have been deluded by Saruman. Many of you have got death as the reward of your trust in him; but had you conquered, little better would your wages have been.’ The men of Dunland were amazed; for Saruman had told them that the men of Rohan were cruel and burned their captives alive. | ” |
–The Two Towers, The Road to Isengard | ||
High King Ithilion wrote: Interesting... that could work, save my thought that Gondor is in fact based on Egypt. But I'll add them. The names are interim, anyway.
Splendid, though I believe that The Old-Kingdom be used to describe the Southron Culture most reminiscent of Númenor (being placed also directly beside the Haven of Umbar), rather than that which is tied more closely to Khand!
Your views in regard to the Southrons are, needless to say, fascinating, Master Ithilion! However, I must confess that I am not in full agreement with all of your above proposals.
If I may make a brief recommendation however, I would suggest that these new Near-Harad Sub-Factions be named the Old, Middle and New Kingdoms, respectively.
The inspiration for this particular naming scheme comes (rather fittingly) from that which is commonly used by Egyptologists to describe the three primary dynasties of the Ancient Egyptian Civilistaion, though, it is important to note that this historically describes differentiating periods as opposed to Kingdoms.
Whilst I in general agree with the above proposals, I should like to point out that (as Master Turammarth has said) several Orc have been known to drop Coins upon their death, and I am certain that a brief analysis of the Mod's Code could confirm this.
Furthermore, I believe that the dropping of Coins by all NPC Traders could lead to the abuse of Trader Respawning mechanics so as to receive large quantities of Coins.
| “ | In Britain's land beyond the seas,
the wind blows ever through the trees, in Britain's land beyond the waves, are stony shores and stony caves | ” |
–J.R.R Tolkien, The Lay of Aotrou and Itroun | ||
Well, this afternoon I purchased Professor Tolkien's re-telling of The Lay of Aotrou & Itroun which was published in the latter part of last year and edited by Doctor Verlyn Flieger. Tolkien's version of this popular Medieval Lay was originally written in 1930 and was later published in the Welsh Review Gazette in 1945, with the tale itself following Aotrou and Itroun (the Breton words for Lord and Lady respectively) who cannot together conceive a child and therefore inlist the help of a malevolent fairy known as the Corrigan. Ultimately, Itroun bears twins and the Corrigan returns to receive her fee, leaving Aotrou to choose between betraying his marriage and losing his life.
I chose to purchase this work due to the fact that I identify as Celtic in heritage and culture (though my descent is Goidelic rather than Brythonic), having also a fascination for the Mythology of these peoples, something which Professor Tolkien only briefly explored in the 1930's. This work may not appeal to all, though I would certainly recommend it to those of you who have interests likewise to my own! Additionally, I today bought for myself a copy of George Orwell's Animal Farm (previously mentioned) so as I could once again read it.
Argali1 wrote: No. Dale is based off of Russia, Landsknechts were German. Rohirric Landsknechts might make sense, but not Dalish.
You must remember not to treat all Faction groups as directly representative of non-fictitious cultures Master Argali, for imposing such assumptions upon them can greatly detract from the basic ideals of the 'Secondary World' and it's mythology and escapism as well as their originality, encouraging things of an allegorical nature. In this particular instance however, it is to be said that Dale is as inspired by Germanic cultures as it is by Federation of Kievan Rus'.
Lastly to return to our original topic of discussion, I would suggest Dalish Longswordsman as a possible name for the proposed new Hireable-Unit.
MrHobit1234 wrote: Please shorten the title.
Please note that I have taken the liberty of myself doing so Mister Hobbit, as this title was very clearly interfering with the Homepage.
This in my opinion seems un-necessary considering that Rhudaur Castles have already been implemented as of Public Beta 30, however I shall secede that this structure could perhaps use improvement to its current design.
Aside from perhaps the lavish plate Armour which you mentioned above Fingowin, I believe that Peter jackson's The Lord of the Rings films were quite accurate in their portrayal of the Eldar. Furthermore, please note that it was explicitly stated in several of Tolkien's works and by the Professor himself that elvish earlobes were leaf-shaped and slightly pointed (see here).
| “ | the Quendian ears were more pointed and leaf-shaped than Human. | ” |
–Extract from Professor Tolkien's early linguistic writings | ||
SamwiseFilmore wrote: I want to stop this right now...
I concur Samwise, this Thread and the recent craze surrounding promotions has become out of hand and far too hectic, therefore I am now closing this discussion as it seems to have fulfilled its allotted purpose!
Once all decisions regarding promotions and new Staff-Members have been decided upon finally by the Wiki's Bureaucracy as well as its senior Administrators I am certain a highlighted announcement Thread shall be created!
Gen. Grievous1138 wrote: Tbh I think Lysurus and Warpig should be content mods at this point anyway. I would like to remind everyone though that Marko and Mevans have complete power over this. Content mods are a bureaucrat-restricted thing.
Gen. Grievous1138 (LOTR Mod Wiki Admin) comlink 13:24, December 30, 2016 (UTC)
A fine point indeed General and one that am I certainly very conscious of, though as I have mentioned above should an Administrator be speaking to MG or Mevans regarding Lysurus' promotion perhaps they would also briefly bring the matter of myself to their attention.
LysurusPeriphragmoides789 wrote: Can't believe I just saw this now! This feels like some sort of election! Thanks for all your support guys!!!
You have also my sincere apologies Master Lysurus for creating this disturbance and detracting from your recent and very well deserved promotion, and once again congratulations :)
SamwiseFilmore wrote: I would note that positions usually emulate the kind of activities the user does in their previous position. My point being that if you moderate the forums a lot (which you Warpig, have done very faithfully and very effectively for many moons now), then you have the rank that allows you to do such things. Lysurus is less interested in moderating the forums (although as a proper staff member, in my opinion, should have permissions which have the capability to forcefully break up arguments) and as such gets a position in which he has the permissions which can be used to make his effort more efficient.
Yes I am well aware of all those points Samwise, and I do not wish to in any way sound rude or disgruntled, however if I could possibly take the example of my dear friend Recneps I would point out that he has been given the position of Content Moderator during his recent promotion from Temporary Moderator (which I greatly commend) despite the fact that he according to these figures edits articles significantly less frequently than I.
Once again you have my apologies for causing any un-rest or seeming impolite, however after quite a long period of thought I felt the need to speak my mind, and would simply ask that should someone be informing Mevans or MG of Lysurus' need to be promoted that they perhaps briefly mention this matter.
High King Ithilion wrote: Y'all should make me content mod, even though I rarely edit pages. I just want prestige and title :P
On a serious note, I have pondered this matter much of late and come to the conclusion that it may be somewhat un-fair that a longstanding and senior Moderator such as myself has now twice in the past week seen others promoted to a higher status than his own, though he does in no way begrudge or deem the Users in question un-fit for their new positions!
I have in my time upon this Wiki made many many edits and additions to articles and would of course find a promotion to Content Moderator useful, but now despite a lack of ambition I do believe that due to my experience, seniority and overall contributions I too am deservèd of such a position.
Catfishperson wrote: No offense, but if we did promote another admin, it would probably be Ffts, Warpig or Alte, who have over 10,000 contributions each.
Do remember Catfishperson that it is not by the sheer quantity of general edits that a User is promoted, but by their merit, manner and the quality of their contributions!
High King Ithilion wrote: "There sat other guards, with drawn swords laid upon their knees. Their golden hair was braided on their shoulders the sun was blazoned upon their green shields, their long corslets were burnished bright, and when they rose taller they seemed than mortal men... and they turned the hilts of their swords towards the travellers in token of peace. Green gems flashed in the sunlight."
I'd say silver mail with green decor and jeweled swords works better...
A quite agree Master Ithilion, and in adddition to your annotation regarding the specific description and coloration of the Armour in which Háma and his Doorwards were clad, I would suggest that this new NPC and Unit be named 'Rohirric Knight' or 'Riddermark Knight' so as to make this Unit more realistic, conventional and accessible considering that Edoras and the Doors of Meduselde have not yet been implemented into the Mod.