All posts by GrandpaMunster

<p>That's interesting, I thought that the structural choices for the Harad in this mod look Chinese as well, but I always thought the Harad were supposed to be Middle-Eastern, perhaps they should add an Easterling branch that is good sided, and based off Asian cultures. </p>

<p>I like it, it reminds me of a Chinese lance. </p>

<p>I disagree about it only be opened at night, in the Hobbit, the crew, if you will, enter the cave <i>after</i> the sun turns them to stone. Sure they were dead and couldn't close it, but they didn't have dwarven door "technology", if they even shut it at all. </p><p>The rest of the suggestion is good, perhaps the waste could actually be a part of the floor, and weapons, kind of like you find in the dead marshes, could be found, and identified by elven smiths. </p>

<p>I know this is off topic, but I REALLY want them tackling the Paths of the Dead. </p>

<p>I agree with Samoja, that's not to say the mod doesn't have depth, it does, and a lot of it; but I have been thinking that it would be best to start concentrating on what's there already, rather than adding more factions. But that's just me and my opinion, the mod team can, and will, do as they please, obviously. </p>

<p>I don't see why it would be too confusing, simply make the arrows that are specifically mentioned in the books, then after that simply Orcish arrows, and Elven arrows. Certainly Legolas being one of the best, if not the best, archer to ever "live" and Galadriel felt it was fit to give him arrows to replace his own, we can assume that Galadrhim arrows, at the least, have a certain amount of superiority. </p>

<p>As someone who only plays Wood-elf, this is a fantastic idea, perhaps a larger spider, with more hp could spawn in them, but it's likely best to save that for another time. </p>

<div class="quote"><i>IronJaw333 wrote:
Way to throw in the last word XD <p>(btw, guess what I just did :DD) </p> </i></div>
<p>Contrare my good fellow. </p>

<p>This is the last post in our debate, for I feel it is proper for the poster of the suggestion to have the last word.  </p><p>I just want to say that those considering kudoing the post, but are afraid that it may contradict lore, can find a good back and forth by reading <i>every comment </i>one at a time, and then deciding for themselves.  </p><p>Clearly I disagree with you, you disagree with me, neither of our lives depend upon this sinking or swimming, lol. </p><p>Good debate </p><p>-GrandpaMunster </p>

<p>I agree but I will make a few closing points, it is my post after all. </p><p>Much of what you have said falls upon your opinion (mine as well) I.e gem's power,arkenstone,etc, and rests in the dislike of this suggestion. Tolkien didn't tell us everything, indeed if he did, it wouldn't be as 'magical.' </p><p>I never contested the silmarils power, or how it got there, I have read the silmarilion. </p><p>If we are to say that all knowledge of such things are gone by the 3rd age, which is true strictly speaking, say goodbye to ring forging being added. </p><p>Tolkien was a folklore/mythology master, the palantir are clearly Crystal balls, and their description fits this, you are objecting to this obvious point out of dislike for the suggestion, not out of reason of what's read; sorry but that needs to be said. </p><p>Your points about them being out of Gandalf' and Saruman's power is a good point. However, it wasn't the valar, or maiar that made them, it was the elves. Your points about Galadriel and Elrond are also good,however there are clearly lost lore worth trying to recover, like the Gondolinian crafting. I just think we don't have to be so strict with <i>everything;</i> if<i> </i>we are<i>, ring forging really shouldn't be added.</i> </p>

<p>@Barhir if you read my response you'd know that I'm not suggesting that "all gems" have power. The silmarils are far stronger than my proposed idea, things don't need a prophecy from mandos, or any valar, to have power. There was no prophecy to making rings of power, yet they made them nonetheless, many of which probably had gemstones.  </p><p>You may be right about the arkenstone, but that's likely up to debate, as Tolkien did not tell us everything. </p><p>That's what <i>he</i> said about the palantir, yes, but just because he said it doesn't make it right. I think everyone understands they were Crystal balls, are you seriously going to contend they were something akin to marble? "They were perfect spheres, appearing to be made of solid glass or deep black crystal." http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Palant%C3%ADri </p><p>The "certain person" I was referring to is a certain President of the U.S.A </p><p>
@Notverygoodnane You are entitled to your opinion, I disagree. But I thank you for not being, shall we say, so hostile. </p>

<p>@pumpkinator </p><p>1. Actually glowstone must have power, however i didn't mention it here because it is a vanilla object, but because it has a constant sustained glow, and does not gain energy from a lightsource, and then for a short time glow like a glow in the dark sticker, we can say it <i>must</i> have energy. </p><p>2. The silmarils made by the elf, that<i> are gems, proves my points.</i> </p><p>3.The arkenstone <i>seems</i> to have the power to corrupt ones mind to lust for wealth. </p><p>4. Palantir being <i>made by an elf </i>again proves my point. Everyone understands they were Tolkien's crystal balls, they're gems, and to quote a certain person, "everyone knows it." </p><p>In regards to your last two sentences: 5. The materials that the elves' used to craft their mastercraft objects are certainly <i>still</i> to be found in middle earth, whereas it is the knowledge that has been "lost", I am merely suggesting that there are those, who by studying lore, have discovered a<i> remnant</i> of the knowledge, and can thus use the materials still there. As far as the evil factions having it, certainly Sauron remembers. </p><p>@Notverygoodusername  </p><p>It is not a fancy slingshot. It's supposed to absorb the energy of the crystals, and then shoot said energy. If you simply don't like the crafting recipe, then perhaps you have something to suggest? </p>

<p>It opens the role of a lore master, and in my opinion can make sense. The elves made rings of power.Tolkien didn't really describe in what way this was done, be it through a point of the elves' nature, or some natural material that they learned; however, the idea of gems having powers in Middle Earth is cannon, the simarils, the arken stone, the palantir, so it doesn't seem too far of a stretch,to me, to suggest that the elves learned how to harness some of these powers, even if it was years ago i.e the rings of power, and <i>if </i>that is the case,<i> it makes sense</i> that only lore masters would have the knowledge.  Given both Gulduril, and Edhelmir glow, we can assume that some power lies there. </p>

<p>What's the point? The point is for Roleplaying, like every other suggestion, frankly. It's not worse it's different, simply loaded in the same way, like a crossbow, meaning you can charge it, unequip it and it'll still be charged.  </p>

<p>Dear people posting(or looking) who don't have an account, if you want this to be considered by Mevans (the mod's maker) to be added, make an account and kudo it.  </p>

<p>I like it, and will kudo any post i see, within reason, that suggests capes and cloaks lol </p>

<p>You are certainly entitled to your opinion,I realize it pushes boundaries a bit, though in my opinion, I feel it can fit. If this gets enough kudos the decision will fall to Mevans anyway. </p>

Perhaps this effect should happen to all who enter the Paths of the Dead past Dunharrow.

<p>Ammo is not infinite, it requires one of the respected gems to craft, and then 1 gem per charged attack, like an arrow or bolt. </p>

<p>Well, it isn't magic per say, it's the utilization of the power in the gems, if I'm not mistaken they both glow, which is an unusual gemstone trait, which could imply power. We also know that the elves had the ability to make rings of power, as well as their swords glow blue around orcs, and other things such as lembas, elven rope, the lothlorien cloaks,the vial that Galadriel gives to Frodo etc. So whereas the "magic" isn't used directly like an attack, except by wizards in lore, I feel that the suggestion, with the above in consideration is not contradictory to lore, because it is the Elves utilizing creation, if you will.; though of course it is not in the text, and I wouldn't suggest bringing it further, because that could contradict it. </p>