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  • Aren't you guys sick and tired of the current Mordor banner? I know I am, and I've never met a person who actually likes the Mordor banner. The best you can hope for is indifference from some filthy elf, or stunted dwarf. At worst, Mordor players refrain from flying the banner of Mordor, because It's such a disgrace.

    The banner of Mordor should be fierce, head turning, strike terror into the hearts of the enemies of Sauron, and enbolden his forces. Why are we stuck with a loopy looking tiny little icon on a field of black? What spawn of Numenor scum was behind such a disgrace?

    Here's my concept that I scrawled myself, this is roughly what I picture being flown at the head of an army from Mordor. 

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    Taduuuuhhhhh. Spikey enough to make Garosh Hellscream proud, in bold, blood-red and striking warm colors, on a black field. Behold, the banner of Mordor!

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    Added slightly re-textured variants to the original Post ~WarPig1237 (Message Wall)

    Here's just some scribbles for the sake of scribbles. 
    Warband
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    • Kudos! I like it!

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    • Wow, you're a very talented artist, This should definetly be added.

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    • Excellent! I found the Mordor banner so bland, and in general disliked it. Now this - this is the real eye of Sauron.

      LysurusPeriphragmoides789BannerL.P.789 Lord of the Arthropods (send message)LysurusPeriphragmoides789Banner

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    • Oh, and also, you might want to add a bit of texture to the banner. If you look at the other banners, you can see different shades, like hints of mottling, so that the banner doesn't appear super smooth. 

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    • Awesome!

      LogoWyvernFlipped WillyWyvern Import me MithrilWyvern-logo-vector 11:07, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

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    • Nice job have you consider being apart of the Mod team? 

      Angmar Shield The MysteryFTW (Lord of Angmar) (Fill my mailbox) Angmar Shield User:MysteryFTW (talk)

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    • Mystery I don't think you understand how admins and mods work. It takes a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time and a loooooooooooooooooooooooooot of good edits to articles to become one. You can't just say "I wanna be a mod!" and poof, you're a mod. And also some people just don't want to be mods. They don't want to do all the article edits. This guy made a cool banner that will most likely be implemented because of its support, but does that put him on the mod road? Not at all.

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    • No im talking about the Mod team not Moderators or Admins.

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    • MysteryFTW wrote: No im talking about the Mod team not Moderators or Admins.

      Mod team is twelve times as hard to achieve as admin here. There likely won't be any new mods for a while.

      Gen. Grievous1138 (admin) comlink 11:29, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

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    • You seriously meant that Mystery?! Um, okay, since my little speech didn't teach you about how success works could somebody else?

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    • Fine.

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    • Thanks for the feedback, yes I agree that it needs to have a little more texturing, as I said it was more of a concept than an actually finished texture, but you can expect me to post one on here shorty. 

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    • Banner mordor1
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      Taduhhh

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    • That looks tremendous.

      Gen. Grievous1138 (admin) comlink 12:41, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

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    • Can someone teach me how to put the new textures Viseric made into the mod floder????

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    • hahahaha lol, ur a good comedian (for Mordor scum) or well, the last time I saw u, u were a Dunlending, on evolvecraft ;P

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    • I hate to disappoint you guys, but the current banner correspond to Tolkien's description and a design by Tolkien. Dark Lord didn't design the banner to please Mordor players. For the sake of the mod, keep the current one.
      Flag of Mordor.JRRT

      Flag displaying the Red Eye of Sauron (based on a design by Tolkien)

      Orque-Terre du Milieu

      Tolkien's orc

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    • Wargaz cc wrote:
      I hate to disappoint you guys, but the current banner correspond to Tolkien's description and a design by Tolkien. Dark Lord didn't design the banner to please Mordor players. For the sake of the mod, keep the current one.
      Flag of Mordor.JRRT

      Flag displaying the Red Eye of Sauron (based on a design by Tolkien)

      Orque-Terre du Milieu

      Tolkien's orc

      meh, viserics one is cooler

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    • Viseric? This is great stuff!

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    • Wargaz cc wrote:
      I hate to disappoint you guys, but the current banner correspond to Tolkien's description and a design by Tolkien. Dark Lord didn't design the banner to please Mordor players. For the sake of the mod, keep the current one.
      Flag of Mordor.JRRT

      Flag displaying the Red Eye of Sauron (based on a design by Tolkien)

      Orque-Terre du Milieu

      Tolkien's orc

      That explains everything, the author who was obsessed with painting Sauron the Great as a vilian is the one who is behind disgracing the entirety of Mordor with such a poorly designed banner! 

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    • Can someone teach me how to put the new textures Viseric made into the mod floder????

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    • Viseric wrote:

      Wargaz cc wrote:
      I hate to disappoint you guys, but the current banner correspond to Tolkien's description and a design by Tolkien. Dark Lord didn't design the banner to please Mordor players. For the sake of the mod, keep the current one.
      Flag of Mordor.JRRT

      Flag displaying the Red Eye of Sauron (based on a design by Tolkien)

      Orque-Terre du Milieu

      Tolkien's orc

      That explains everything, the author who was obsessed with painting Sauron the Great as a vilian is the one who is behind disgracing the entirety of Mordor with such a poorly designed banner! 

      The banner of Stewards was white without charge. The banner of Mordor was black but bearing on it in red the Evil Eye, and there was no super long red eyelashes and a yellow eyeball on it.

      The banner of Stewards is clear and clear, and you don't really need to add anything on it; those super long red eyelashes will not make Mordor cooler.

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    • Wargaz cc wrote:

      I hate to disappoint you guys, but the current banner correspond to Tolkien's description and a design by Tolkien. Dark Lord didn't design the banner to please Mordor players. For the sake of the mod, keep the current one.
      Flag of Mordor.JRRT

      Flag displaying the Red Eye of Sauron (based on a design by Tolkien)

      Orque-Terre du Milieu

      Tolkien's orc

      The new Mordor banner still follows the description of a red eye in a black field. The eye just looks more dynamic.

      Gen. Grievous1138 (admin) comlink 13:20, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

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    • Gen. Grievous1138 wrote:

      Wargaz cc wrote:

      I hate to disappoint you guys, but the current banner correspond to Tolkien's description and a design by Tolkien. Dark Lord didn't design the banner to please Mordor players. For the sake of the mod, keep the current one.
      Flag of Mordor.JRRT

      Flag displaying the Red Eye of Sauron (based on a design by Tolkien)

      Orque-Terre du Milieu

      Tolkien's orc

      The new Mordor banner still follows the description of a red eye in a black field. The eye just looks more dynamic.

      Gen. Grievous1138 (admin) comlink 13:20, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

      Yes, but with super long red eyelashes and a yellow eyeball on it. Maybe Sauron started to use Maybelline.

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    • At any rate, moderator Aidansebastian likes this design and has presented it to the mod team.

      Gen. Grievous1138 (admin) comlink 13:31, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

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    • Maybe we neednt to care about our graet writer so seriously,Li(think about dorwinion and Moredain)Viseric did a great job.

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    • Gen. Grievous1138 wrote:

      MysteryFTW wrote: No im talking about the Mod team not Moderators or Admins.

      Mod team is twelve times as hard to achieve as admin here. There likely won't be any new mods for a while.

      Gen. Grievous1138 (admin) comlink 11:29, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

      Probably the best way to get into mod team is to make a suggestion that comes with code so Mevans can just change stuff a bit and add it.

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    • As far as I'm concerned the banner of Mordor is cannon ,and this suggestion is not lore-based ,this is more like fan-fiction ,as Wargaz saied the banner is cannon and it could have bigger eyelashes ,so I think this suggestion should not be shown to Eru Mevansluvatar and yes :

      Apairë I-Quendinna !

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    • Can I like anti-kudo the last message?

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    • WillyWyvern wrote:
      Can I like anti-kudo the last message?

      Please do that.

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    • If only it was so.

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    • WillyWyvern wrote: If only it was so.

      This isn't cannon though . . .

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      1. TexturesDontHaveToBeCanon
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    • WillyWyvern wrote:

      1. TexturesDontHaveToBeCanon

      But this should be a change in the mod ,for this is the approved suggestions forum ...

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    • Then why say it shouldn't be brought to Mevans?

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    • WillyWyvern wrote: Then why say it shouldn't be brought to Mevans?

      cuz it's non-cannon .

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    • But you just said it should be a change in the mod, but that would require Mevans viewing it.

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    • WillyWyvern wrote: But you just said it should be a change in the mod, but that would require Mevans viewing it.

      I meant that the suggestions on this forum will be showed to Mevans because the suggestions here are approved ,as I saied in the first place this wee suggestion will be showed to Mevans for changing the current texture for the Banner of Mordor ,but this is more like a Benicio del Torro banner for The Hobbit .

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    • 86.120.34.143 wrote:

      WillyWyvern wrote: But you just said it should be a change in the mod, but that would require Mevans viewing it.

      I meant that the suggestions on this forum will be showed to Mevans because the suggestions here are approved ,as I saied in the first place this wee suggestion will be showed to Mevans for changing the current texture for the Banner of Mordor ,but this is more like a Benicio del Torro banner for The Hobbit .

      Just look on this Page ,the Banner is made by Tolkien himself ,therefor cannon :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordor

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    • 86.120.34.143 wrote:
      86.120.34.143 wrote:

      WillyWyvern wrote: But you just said it should be a change in the mod, but that would require Mevans viewing it.

      I meant that the suggestions on this forum will be showed to Mevans because the suggestions here are approved ,as I saied in the first place this wee suggestion will be showed to Mevans for changing the current texture for the Banner of Mordor ,but this is more like a Benicio del Torro banner for The Hobbit .
      Just look on this Page ,the Banner is made by Tolkien himself ,therefor cannon :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordor

      "This article needs additional citations for verificationPlease help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed."

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    • I don't really care if this suggestion isn't completely canon, it looks super awesome. It's the Red Eye. Is anymore necessary? I mean c'mon, even some of the equipment in the mod is made based off of the movies. It works, and it works well. 

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    • Agreed, this banner looks far better and is compatible with lore.

      Gen. Grievous1138 (admin) comlink 21:08, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

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    • How about you give it to Mevans, but remind him that it is uncanon?

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    • It isn't. There is no design that is technically canon, only the description, which this design fits. It has been sent to Mevans.

      Gen. Grievous1138 (admin) comlink 22:36, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

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    • I feel like people ruin the fun of things for the sake of being strictly canon, and I mean strict.

      LogoWyvernFlipped WillyWyvern Import me MithrilWyvern-logo-vector 22:45, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

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    • I think a balance of lore-based and movie based features is best. For example, the Uruk-hai seem mostly based of the movies, and they look awesome, and are still decently canon, even with crossbowers and berserkers.

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    • WillyWyvern wrote: I feel like people ruin the fun of things for the sake of being strictly canon, and I mean strict.

      LogoWyvernFlipped WillyWyvern Import me MithrilWyvern-logo-vector 22:45, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

      LysurusPeriphragmoides789 wrote: I think a balance of lore-based and movie based features is best. For example, the Uruk-hai seem mostly based of the movies, and they look awesome, and are still decently canon, even with crossbowers and berserkers.

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      I feel like people ruin the fun of things for the sake of being uncanon, and I mean strict.

      Northmen are underpowered because of balance. The armour of Rohan are made of iron but worth only bronze levels. In the Greater Rohan, Isengard are received uncanonical and overpowered crossbowers and berserkers, and Dunlendings are received berserkers, too, but Rohan have terrible equipment and armours. Please tell me, how could this be a little bit balance? Without high valves of Uruk-hai equipment, who will ever like those foul-mouthed Isengarders in both the mod and the book?

      Not only the Northmen but also Ents are underpowered. In the lore, arrows are no use against Ents. They cannot be poisoned. They have a variety of appearances:chestnut, fir (the tallest Ents), ash, birch, rowan, and linden. What I asked Mevans himself, he said that not all of features of ordinary Ents will be added, and some features will be introduced on bosses. Then, he added Mallorn Ents. It isn't that people ruin the fun of things for the sake of being uncanon and an unbalanced balance?

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    • When I say "balance", I didn't mean gameplay (I quite agree on your statement about the weakness of Rohan). I mean there are features recognisable from adaptations, but they are still applicable to the world that Tolkien created. Mevans wasn't as carried away with non-canon as Jackson was in BotFA.

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    • For the Eye! For the Kudos!

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    • Wargaz cc wrote:

      WillyWyvern wrote: I feel like people ruin the fun of things for the sake of being strictly canon, and I mean strict.

      LogoWyvernFlipped WillyWyvern Import me MithrilWyvern-logo-vector 22:45, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

      LysurusPeriphragmoides789 wrote: I think a balance of lore-based and movie based features is best. For example, the Uruk-hai seem mostly based of the movies, and they look awesome, and are still decently canon, even with crossbowers and berserkers.

      LysurusPeriphragmoides789BannerL.P.789 Lord of the Arthropods (send message)LysurusPeriphragmoides789Banner

      I feel like people ruin the fun of things for the sake of being uncanon, and I mean strict.

      Northmen are underpowered because of balance. The armour of Rohan are made of iron but worth only bronze levels. In the Greater Rohan, Isengard are received uncanonical and overpowered crossbowers and berserkers, and Dunlendings are received berserkers, too, but Rohan have terrible equipment and armours. Please tell me, how could this be a little bit balance? Without high valves of Uruk-hai equipment, who will ever like those foul-mouthed Isengarders in both the mod and the book?

      Not only the Northmen but also Ents are underpowered. In the lore, arrows are no use against Ents. They cannot be poisoned. They have a variety of appearances:chestnut, fir (the tallest Ents), ash, birch, rowan, and linden. What I asked Mevans himself, he said that not all of features of ordinary Ents will be added, and some features will be introduced on bosses. Then, he added Mallorn Ents. It isn't that people ruin the fun of things for the sake of being uncanon and an unbalanced balance?

      Rohirrim cavalry are fast to the point where a horde of them is nearly invincible. Mallorn Ents were added to balance the concept of a boss, so that there is one for both sides.

      Gen. Grievous1138 (admin) comlink 09:47, May 16, 2016 (UTC)

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    • Gen. Grievous1138 wrote:

      Wargaz cc wrote:

      WillyWyvern wrote: I feel like people ruin the fun of things for the sake of being strictly canon, and I mean strict.

      LogoWyvernFlipped WillyWyvern Import me MithrilWyvern-logo-vector 22:45, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

      LysurusPeriphragmoides789 wrote: I think a balance of lore-based and movie based features is best. For example, the Uruk-hai seem mostly based of the movies, and they look awesome, and are still decently canon, even with crossbowers and berserkers.

      LysurusPeriphragmoides789BannerL.P.789 Lord of the Arthropods (send message)LysurusPeriphragmoides789Banner

      I feel like people ruin the fun of things for the sake of being uncanon, and I mean strict.

      Northmen are underpowered because of balance. The armour of Rohan are made of iron but worth only bronze levels. In the Greater Rohan, Isengard are received uncanonical and overpowered crossbowers and berserkers, and Dunlendings are received berserkers, too, but Rohan have terrible equipment and armours. Please tell me, how could this be a little bit balance? Without high valves of Uruk-hai equipment, who will ever like those foul-mouthed Isengarders in both the mod and the book?

      Not only the Northmen but also Ents are underpowered. In the lore, arrows are no use against Ents. They cannot be poisoned. They have a variety of appearances:chestnut, fir (the tallest Ents), ash, birch, rowan, and linden. What I asked Mevans himself, he said that not all of features of ordinary Ents will be added, and some features will be introduced on bosses. Then, he added Mallorn Ents. It isn't that people ruin the fun of things for the sake of being uncanon and an unbalanced balance?

      Rohirrim cavalry are fast to the point where a horde of them is nearly invincible. Mallorn Ents were added to balance the concept of a boss, so that there is one for both sides.

      Gen. Grievous1138 (admin) comlink 09:47, May 16, 2016 (UTC)

      Gundabad Wargs now run faster than other Wargs, which are equally matched to Rohirrim horses. However, they (or you) still got a unmounted elite unit. Besides, Gundabad Orc Riders run as fast as Rohirrim cavalry, and both riders and mounts could make attacks. Moreover, you can use the same amount of coins of a horde of Rohirrim cavalry to buy a bunch of Gundabad Uruks to fight a horde of Rohirrim cavalry, and you will always win.

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    • Wargaz cc wrote:

      Gen. Grievous1138 wrote:

      Wargaz cc wrote:

      WillyWyvern wrote: I feel like people ruin the fun of things for the sake of being strictly canon, and I mean strict.

      LogoWyvernFlipped WillyWyvern Import me MithrilWyvern-logo-vector 22:45, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

      LysurusPeriphragmoides789 wrote: I think a balance of lore-based and movie based features is best. For example, the Uruk-hai seem mostly based of the movies, and they look awesome, and are still decently canon, even with crossbowers and berserkers.

      LysurusPeriphragmoides789BannerL.P.789 Lord of the Arthropods (send message)LysurusPeriphragmoides789Banner

      I feel like people ruin the fun of things for the sake of being uncanon, and I mean strict.

      Northmen are underpowered because of balance. The armour of Rohan are made of iron but worth only bronze levels. In the Greater Rohan, Isengard are received uncanonical and overpowered crossbowers and berserkers, and Dunlendings are received berserkers, too, but Rohan have terrible equipment and armours. Please tell me, how could this be a little bit balance? Without high valves of Uruk-hai equipment, who will ever like those foul-mouthed Isengarders in both the mod and the book?

      Not only the Northmen but also Ents are underpowered. In the lore, arrows are no use against Ents. They cannot be poisoned. They have a variety of appearances:chestnut, fir (the tallest Ents), ash, birch, rowan, and linden. What I asked Mevans himself, he said that not all of features of ordinary Ents will be added, and some features will be introduced on bosses. Then, he added Mallorn Ents. It isn't that people ruin the fun of things for the sake of being uncanon and an unbalanced balance?

      Rohirrim cavalry are fast to the point where a horde of them is nearly invincible. Mallorn Ents were added to balance the concept of a boss, so that there is one for both sides.

      Gen. Grievous1138 (admin) comlink 09:47, May 16, 2016 (UTC)

      Gundabad Wargs now run faster than other Wargs, which are equally matched to Rohirrim horses. However, they (or you) still got a unmounted elite unit. Besides, Gundabad Orc Riders run as fast as Rohirrim cavalry, and both riders and mounts could make attacks. Moreover, you can use the same amount of coins of a horde of Rohirrim cavalry to buy a bunch of Gundabad Uruks to fight a horde of Rohirrim cavalry, and you will always win.

      Horses should actually be able to kick and punch, like, real warhorses are trained to do so for the sake of the life of their master.

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    • Wargaz cc wrote:

      Gen. Grievous1138 wrote:

      Wargaz cc wrote:

      WillyWyvern wrote: I feel like people ruin the fun of things for the sake of being strictly canon, and I mean strict.

      LogoWyvernFlipped WillyWyvern Import me MithrilWyvern-logo-vector 22:45, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

      LysurusPeriphragmoides789 wrote: I think a balance of lore-based and movie based features is best. For example, the Uruk-hai seem mostly based of the movies, and they look awesome, and are still decently canon, even with crossbowers and berserkers.

      LysurusPeriphragmoides789BannerL.P.789 Lord of the Arthropods (send message)LysurusPeriphragmoides789Banner

      I feel like people ruin the fun of things for the sake of being uncanon, and I mean strict.

      Northmen are underpowered because of balance. The armour of Rohan are made of iron but worth only bronze levels. In the Greater Rohan, Isengard are received uncanonical and overpowered crossbowers and berserkers, and Dunlendings are received berserkers, too, but Rohan have terrible equipment and armours. Please tell me, how could this be a little bit balance? Without high valves of Uruk-hai equipment, who will ever like those foul-mouthed Isengarders in both the mod and the book?

      Not only the Northmen but also Ents are underpowered. In the lore, arrows are no use against Ents. They cannot be poisoned. They have a variety of appearances:chestnut, fir (the tallest Ents), ash, birch, rowan, and linden. What I asked Mevans himself, he said that not all of features of ordinary Ents will be added, and some features will be introduced on bosses. Then, he added Mallorn Ents. It isn't that people ruin the fun of things for the sake of being uncanon and an unbalanced balance?

      Rohirrim cavalry are fast to the point where a horde of them is nearly invincible. Mallorn Ents were added to balance the concept of a boss, so that there is one for both sides.

      Gen. Grievous1138 (admin) comlink 09:47, May 16, 2016 (UTC)

      Gundabad Wargs now run faster than other Wargs, which are equally matched to Rohirrim horses. However, they (or you) still got a unmounted elite unit. Besides, Gundabad Orc Riders run as fast as Rohirrim cavalry, and both riders and mounts could make attacks. Moreover, you can use the same amount of coins of a horde of Rohirrim cavalry to buy a bunch of Gundabad Uruks to fight a horde of Rohirrim cavalry, and you will always win.

      Rohirric cavalry is faster than Gundabad cavarly, and FAR more durable. Any type of unit, Uruk or otherwise, will fall to a horde of Rohirric cavalry archers.

      Gen. Grievous1138 (admin) comlink 19:45, May 16, 2016 (UTC)

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    • Or trample them

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    • At this point I am necroing but I just have to mention how amazing these two banner designs look compared to the in-game one. Personally I prefer that second design on the bottom more.

      I've got nothing against the in-game one per se, its very clean in its design. But I feel like there should be a lot more character added to the banner especially now when Mordor has been reborn and a whole lot of attention has been drawn to it again.

      I really hope that some day that second banner design is made into the base Mordor banner for the mod.

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