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  • This is a discussion board, and I would just like to know what your favorite faction is. I am not sure if you think it is the best or not, but please tell me what is your favorite faction!!! Why do you think so?

    Personally: HARAD. Harad is an amazing faction, and whether it is the BEST or not is debatable (based on others opinions), but Harad is GREAT. 

    Steeds: Harad is the only place which you can come to battle on a cool steed! All those L00ZRs who go to battle on Rohan horses? GIRRAFFES ARE THE WAY TO GO! FORGET TOYOTA!

    Neighbors: You have the Easterlings nearby, which have some SWEET looking armor and fire bombs. Half-trolls: tank units. Some of the strongest mobs in the game. Tauredain- SERIOUSLY cool loot in them pyramids, and SUPER COLORFUL CLOTHES! The Moredain... cool foods! Cooked lions and zebras! A nice little slice of rhino...heh, heh, heh. >:) 

    Also, the actual Southron Warriors can take a lot of damage. I went through Ithilien with a couple of them, and even though most died, it takes a LOT of punishment to kill these guys. (also, you look awesome while you're going to battle in a sea of red.) 

    Tell me your guys' opinions! Whats your favorite faction? Or just a faction you really like if you don't play favorites?

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    • I think Dale is my favorite faction to play. They are pretty well-balanced. Between the bakers, blacksmiths, traveling traders, and nearby Dwarven smiths, they cover a variety of trade. Their equipment is reasonably good (the only poor thing is durability) and Dwarven equipment is also accessible. You might even get away with using some Wood-Elven equipment. The Dalish Longbows are also great weapons.

      It’s a nice biome with good variety, and villages are common so loot is easy to get. They don’t have very many different building blocks, but the bricks and pillars look nice and with the tiles or wood as a roof and bronze bars or stained glass for the windows you can make some pretty grand builds. There is a wide variety of build projects and building styles one can try with the given materials that fits with the faction.

      The food is good as well. Cram is inexpensive to make and very useful. Since flavor doesn’t matter in the mod there’s no downside. With trade between the Lonely Mountain, Dorwinion, and the Woodland Realm, there are plenty of opportunities for diverse and enjoyable interactions with those factions. I like the look of Dale’s equipment, armour, horse armour, and shield as well.

      I also like the High Elves to some extent because of the larger room for creativity in building styles. They also have better equipment (battlestaffs are awesome). However they aren’t as much fun to play as in my opinion.

      The Taurethrim / Tauredain are also cool because of the Mesoamerican influences. I really like how they have been brought forward as a faction, and sometime I would like to try playing / building in their style.

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    • I like Dorwinion. You can make money quite easily by trading grapes, olives, almonds, and the like with Dale and the Woodland realm. Also, you can use Wood-elf weapons without breaking roleplay too much, as they were trading partners. The scenery is quite beautiful, as are the building materials and style. The Dorwinion elves also make decent units, for a peaceable faction. Alignment can be a bit of a hassle, so miniquests are my usual method, but you can kill some orcs around Bardhaven if you want a faster way.

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    • Thanks guys! 

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    • Xerped wrote: I like Dorwinion. You can make money quite easily by trading grapes, olives, almonds, and the like with Dale and the Woodland realm. Also, you can use Wood-elf weapons without breaking roleplay too much, as they were trading partners. The scenery is quite beautiful, as are the building materials and style. The Dorwinion elves also make decent units, for a peaceable faction. Alignment can be a bit of a hassle, so miniquests are my usual method, but you can kill some orcs around Bardhaven if you want a faster way.

      High Elven EquipmentXerped The Antisocial(Don't click this)UmbaricEquipment

      And Dorwinion is secretly ruled by Bombadil.....

      Mine would have to be Northmen in general. Since it is the Only Northmen fac in the game I paly as dale. Mostly I just wander like a Nomad through the Northern forest. And when I want to trade I go to dale. They have decent weapons, good bows(though I prefer the Rhunic bows for the Forest) and good traders.

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    • Kickratgames1101 wrote:

      And Dorwinion is secretly ruled by Bombadil.....

      Shhh, you’re not supposed to tell them...

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    • I honestly have to say the Wood-elves. They are just like the other elves, except for the fact that they mount their troops on Elk and they have Scouts. They are a little hard to get to, but it's easy to get alignment with them if you go the Forest Gate WP and slaughter Gundabad. Their bows, while not the best, shoot fairly quickly, which is nice because they live in a thick Woodland.

      Red looks pink on my computer, so I really don't ever go to Harad. I'm saving for a new monitor though, so... BEWARE

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    • I like most mannish factions but Dale and Dorwinion are my favorite good and Harad my favorite evil, maybe its because I'm decent at building them 
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    • @Draugthalion Tiruial

      • Grunt* what do you mean "So beware"? Are you threatening my people?! >:(

      Harad is great!

      QUESTION: is there a reason everyone doesn't like the orcs? XD I don't know anyone who lives in a orc place. (Mordor, Angmar, Misty Mountains) etc.

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    • I don’t know. I do know of a few players, but you’re right, not a lot of people play as orcs. I think that it’s because they don’t get as much attention as other factions.

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    • Orc factions are actually pretty cool depending on what sort of dark and decrepit building style you are going for. Of course, they have their fair share of ominous and powerful builds you can make.

      If you like the look of corrupt and rotting, dol guldur is a good pick. Ragged and ruinous would be gundabad and Angmar. Powerful would be isengard, ominous and powerful would be mordor.

      I love playing as the lindon variant of high elves. Must be something to do with my love of the sea...

      If I had to pick another faction, it would be easterlings for their glorious golden armor and cool building style, Rangers of north or gondor for simply never settling down and living in permanent adventure mode, or maybe dorwinion for the flowers and colors. I might try blue dwarves too just 'cause I like blue. If I was making picnics and parties all the time for a server I would be a hobbit.

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    • I love Rivendell. It is easy to kill enough orcs there to get alignment for many factions.

      And I love all Elven Factions, but I seldom walk into Dorwinion (sorry Xerped), 

      By the way, do you guys love Dead Marshes? Recently I have wandered there to find Shrek's House again (I found it, but I have forgot the coord), and I died there for three times, I lost my host, my horse and all equipments I wore. XD

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    • I actually really do kind of like the Dead Marshes, for real. I played on a server once, and made a base there, going back and forth to other factions. Never ONCE had a single player found me, (also, no MOBS!!! ITS AMAZING!) Just fill up the water with dirt, and you're fine. 

      Also, the dead marshes and brownlands are great for arena building and pvp, because it is in the center: everyone can get there relatively quickly, and nobody lives there or cares about it.

      (I too, don't really LOVE dorwinion, but I do kind of ike them. I always drink alcohol in these games... must be a rub-off from my role playing.) Also, in my own little LAN servers, I focus on Dorwinion as Rome. I mean, come ON! Olives, red and white wine, white quartz-like buildings... all you need is a harp and a laurel wreath, and you could call it Rome. 

      (idea for next April fools)

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    • To tell the truth, I have found Shrek's House last night! But it seems that the CAT is gone. Is it normal?

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    • I use the voxelMap to draw the map of middle-earth. Maybe it's a bit silly, for the Middle-earth is tremendously big, and it takes millions of hours to finish it. I just finished the Mrikwood+AnduinVale+Rohan+Gondor+Eriador Map last week, and I almost filled over all the blanks of Mordor last night, but still, I haven't find the Giant Cherry Tree.

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    • Xerped wrote:
      I don’t know. I do know of a few players, but you’re right, not a lot of people play as orcs. I think that it’s because they don’t get as much attention as other factions.

      High Elven EquipmentXerped The Antisocial(Don't click this)UmbaricEquipment

      I hate Orcs because they call me "maggot/scum" even if I ally with them. Then I will go crazy and kill them all. Maybe that is why you can always have a chance to see them skirmishing.

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    • Yeah... They should change that, especially with hired orcs... I mean, if you are an orc general, and one of your troops calls you scum... LUGBURZ WOULD CUT THEIR HEAD OFF.

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    • IronJaw333 wrote:
      Yeah... They should change that, especially with hired orcs... I mean, if you are an orc general, and one of your troops calls you scum... LUGBURZ WOULD CUT THEIR HEAD OFF.

      Ha. But Orcs are born with it. Can it be really changed? Hardly.

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    • IronJaw333 wrote: Yeah... They should change that, especially with hired orcs... I mean, if you are an orc general, and one of your troops calls you scum... LUGBURZ WOULD CUT THEIR HEAD OFF.

      There is a sort of texture pack that provides updated speechbanks, to be used once you have high alignment. I do think that you have to edit your assets or something, as it changes speech, but it does exist.

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    • Xerped wrote:

      IronJaw333 wrote: Yeah... They should change that, especially with hired orcs... I mean, if you are an orc general, and one of your troops calls you scum... LUGBURZ WOULD CUT THEIR HEAD OFF.

      There is a sort of texture pack that provides updated speechbanks, to be used once you have high alignment. I do think that you have to edit your assets or something, as it changes speech, but it does exist.

      High Elven EquipmentXerped The Antisocial(Don't click this)UmbaricEquipment

      Yes. And I think the lores and speeches should have translations for the players who cannot read English as well. Do they exist?

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    • I have got several favourite Factions. They are: Isengard, Durins Folk, Taurethrim, Rhúdel, Near Harad, Gondor

      When they are added: Wainriders, Red Dwarves, Limwaith, Free Easterlings, Rohan (Westfold)

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    • Jurassic Sean wrote:
      I have got several favourite Factions. They are: Isengard, Durins Folk, Taurethrim, Rhúdel, Near Harad, Gondor

      When they are added: Wainriders, Red Dwarves, Limwaith, Free Easterlings, Rohan (Westfold)

      Then you should probably wait for a long time.

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    • Ehrmm... what exactly ARE wainriders? I never thought they would be their own faction... I always thought that wainriders are orcs on wargs...?

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    • IronJaw333 wrote:
      Ehrmm... what exactly ARE wainriders? I never thought they would be their own faction... I always thought that wainriders are orcs on wargs...?

      Maybe. Tolkien had never explained them, but I think it can help you to know them well>>>http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Wainriders

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    • Thanks!

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    • By the way, IronJaw, have you noticed my discussion about "The Name of 'Cerinrim' and 'Emyn Winion' "? I need some new ideas. I would be grateful if you would offer to help me.

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    • I like Gondor as my faction of choice, and I most often build using Gondor bricks and in Gondorian style, but I always play for the greater of the good factions, just cuz they’re all kinda cool in their own way. In my latest single player world I started playing as a Gondorian leader rebuilding Arnor in the north while holding Gondorian fortresses in defence against Mordor in the south, juggling the two. But the high elves are cool too

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    • PumpkinLOTR wrote: I like Gondor as my faction of choice, and I most often build using Gondor bricks and in Gondorian style, but I always play for the greater of the good factions, just cuz they’re all kinda cool in their own way. In my latest single player world I started playing as a Gondorian leader rebuilding Arnor in the north while holding Gondorian fortresses in defence against Mordor in the south, juggling the two. But the high elves are cool too

      Yeah, Gondor is good, though it is a little bit far to travel to.

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    • I really like Rhun. The entire aesthetic of the faction, the obvious eastern influences, and just the region they live in general is all pretty cool. Rhun may look ugly to people due to the yellow grass, but I really enjoy that grass color for some reason; especially in the pine forests. And obviously: the Golden Easterling armor is badass.

      When I play as one of the "evil" men factions, I always roleplay as one that has a decent heart, and would rather serve his people and avoid any possible interaction with the Dark Lord and the orcs, if possible. Although, if I do have to cooperate with Mordor, I will use the Olog-hai in my army for sure. ;)

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    • Yes Seesar! Together, your Easterlings and my Haradrim will take over the WOORLD!

      XD

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    • Tom Bombadil and the Dorwinrim will soon put a stop to that. No one shall wrest the world from the clutches of our exalted Bombadil...

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    • Lol YOU SHALL NOT PASS! For my army of Rivendell shall send you to the abyss! XD

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    • Easterlings are Dorwinions vassal in my server ;)

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    • SerCurtis wrote:
      Easterlings are Dorwinions vassal in my server ;)

      How would those filthy grape-pickers manage to overcome the might of the East?!

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    • This probably seems a little more usual and uncreative, but I absolutely LOVE the look of Dol Amroth Subfaction. The wings, the giant swords, even the small shade of blue just looks great. Wish it had some more diversity from Gondor though. 

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    • Yeah... Dorwihrim... (Dorwinion peoples in plural) Aren't a very powerful faction... now, RIVENDELL is a force to be reckoned with.

      My favorite part of the new bars, is the fact that I am allied with Harad, Angmar, Morwaith and Easterlings (all evil factions) but I am also allied with Lothlorien, Lindon, Rivendell, and Blue Mountains. (My enemy is Gundabad, HATE THEM but yet I am allied with Angmar. XD The powers of mini-quests)

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    • I love how I replied two seconds ago, and already someone made a reply, while in the Suggestiion Forum I wait several hours at least

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    • Seesar0008 wrote:

      SerCurtis wrote:
      Easterlings are Dorwinions vassal in my server ;)

      How would those filthy grape-pickers manage to overcome the might of the East?!

      Bombadil...

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    • Merry do diddle, the cat and the fiddle ate the man with a strange yellow hat,

      While the dog laughed and cried and his wife, stop them tried, 

      And the cow called the little man fat.



      Now you can go into your world, find Tom Bombadil, and he will give you a headhunter quest for me XD

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    • IronJaw333 wrote:
      Yeah... Dorwihrim... (Dorwinion peoples in plural) Aren't a very powerful faction... now, RIVENDELL is a force to be reckoned with.

      My favorite part of the new bars, is the fact that I am allied with Harad, Angmar, Morwaith and Easterlings (all evil factions) but I am also allied with Lothlorien, Lindon, Rivendell, and Blue Mountains. (My enemy is Gundabad, HATE THEM but yet I am allied with Angmar. XD The powers of mini-quests)

      Dorwidhrim if I'm not wrong. ;P

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    • SWVWC wrote:
      I love how I replied two seconds ago, and already someone made a reply, while in the Suggestiion Forum I wait several hours at least

      Cuz we all love chatting more than deliberating.

      SwordGondolinTharaerel Faelgallon Pedo mellon a minnoRingil

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    • IronJaw333 wrote:
      Merry do diddle, the cat and the fiddle ate the man with a strange yellow hat,

      While the dog laughed and cried and his wife, stop them tried, 

      And the cow called the little man fat.



      Now you can go into your world, find Tom Bombadil, and he will give you a headhunter quest for me XD

      Yeah and I think the Oddment Collectors will try to kill ya cuz they are allies with Tom. See Dear Tom...XD

      SwordGondolinTharaerel Faelgallon Pedo mellon a minnoRingil

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    • (0_0) You know, that is NOT a very good story for me... I'm going to have nightmares for weeks.

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    • IDEA! (please don't ban me)

      We could make the Old Forest have a faction called "Army of Bombadil" (kind of like Dumbldors army in Harry Potter) and you could join him in his secret conquest of Middle-earth, and there would be a book where you could put in your name, and in there, there would be dozens of oddment collector names... :D 

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    • IronJaw333 wrote:
      IDEA! (please don't ban me)

      We could make the Old Forest have a faction called "Army of Bombadil" (kind of like Dumbldors army in Harry Potter) and you could join him in his secret conquest of Middle-earth, and there would be a book where you could put in your name, and in there, there would be dozens of oddment collector names... :D 

      Haha. But I don't know if Xerped agree with your idea. Maybe he has been preparing an army of Oddment Collectors already, so...WHEN THEY ARE SHAVING YOUR BEARD AT NIGHT, DON'T WAKE UP.

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    • BUT I DONT EVEN HAVE A BEARD! WHAT DO I DO

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    • Well you should flee as fast as you can. Nobody wants to be made into a piece of Suspicious Meat. :-)

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    • Gasp. But that is my dreem! I will double the guards in my Haradrim fortress. LOCKDOWN. (perhaps I should consider moving to Mordor, there are no oddment collectors there...)







      As far as we know...

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    • Tharaerel wrote:

      IronJaw333 wrote:
      Merry do diddle, the cat and the fiddle ate the man with a strange yellow hat,

      While the dog laughed and cried and his wife, stop them tried, 

      And the cow called the little man fat.



      Now you can go into your world, find Tom Bombadil, and he will give you a headhunter quest for me XD

      Yeah and I think the Oddment Collectors will try to kill ya cuz they are allies with Tom. See Dear Tom...XD

      SwordGondolinTharaerel Faelgallon Pedo mellon a minnoRingil

      That fandom user on the thread was me before I got an account...

      Also, Ironjaw, you don’t have a beard because the Oddment collectors have been shaving it...

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    • IronJaw333 wrote:
      Gasp. But that is my dreem! I will double the guards in my Haradrim fortress. LOCKDOWN. (perhaps I should consider moving to Mordor, there are no oddment collectors there...)







      As far as we know...

      These guys can even make way into Utumno, so you have no way to hide.

      SwordGondolinTharaerel Faelgallon Pedo mellon a minnoRingil

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    • GASP! I wonder how I would look with a beard... time to pay my Blue Dwarven friends a visit.

      I DO have the begginings of a mustache. Will the oddment collectors shave that off too? 



      Do the oddment collectors ACTUALLY go to Utumno?  O_o

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    • IronJaw333 wrote:
      GASP! I wonder how I would look with a beard... time to pay my Blue Dwarven friends a visit.

      I DO have the begginings of a mustache. Will the oddment collectors shave that off too? 



      Do the oddment collectors ACTUALLY go to Utumno?  O_o

      They will IIRC.

      They do. Read this page.

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    • What does IIRC mean?

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    • It means "If I Remember Correctly" IIRC. :-)

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    • Mordor

      It may be hard to get alignment early on (gondor can be hard to kill early on) and you need at least 100 alignment iirc before they won't kill you, but it pays off.

      Most of your allies are pretty cool (Harad and Rhudel are amazing, Half-Trolls have great weapons, other orcs are just pretty chill).

      Your mounts are either cool wall-climbing spiders or man-eating warfs

      Your hirelings can be massive Gondorian slaying trolls that don't turn to stone.

      Your tool-set even gets an elven battlestaff that isn't elven! LIKE THATS SO DAMN COOL

      10/10 please join mordor unless youre in the server then go join avari

      Really, the only downside of mordor is the ugly landscape.

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    • xD seezar, the thing is, Dorwinion on my server(and under the heavy influence of me) is not a grape picking nation. Its based on the Byzantine Empire in Justinian's time. And quite strong, considering its also in empire with Harad.

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    • Goat headed Demon Lord wrote:
      Mordor

      It may be hard to get alignment early on (gondor can be hard to kill early on) and you need at least 100 alignment iirc before they won't kill you, but it pays off.

      Most of your allies are pretty cool (Harad and Rhudel are amazing, Half-Trolls have great weapons, other orcs are just pretty chill).

      Your mounts are either cool wall-climbing spiders or man-eating warfs

      Your hirelings can be massive Gondorian slaying trolls that don't turn to stone.

      Your tool-set even gets an elven battlestaff that isn't elven! LIKE THATS SO DAMN COOL

      10/10 please join mordor unless youre in the server then go join avari

      Really, the only downside of mordor is the ugly landscape.

      Rivendell is cool enough.Why should I ally with Mordor?

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    • I don’t really have a favorite, but my favorite good factions are durins folk (mainly trimmed armor), and Dorwinion (idk). I rarely play as a good mannish factions (except Gkndor), or haradric factions in general. My favorite evil faction is Mordor (only downside: too much lava)
      
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    • ALL THE SERVANTS OF DARKNESS SHALL MEET THEIR END UNDER THE BLADE OF MY PEOPLE!

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    • SerCurtis wrote:
      xD seezar, the thing is, Dorwinion on my server(and under the heavy influence of me) is not a grape picking nation. Its based on the Byzantine Empire in Justinian's time. And quite strong, considering its also in empire with Harad.

      Sounds awesome, always loved the idea of a Byzantine Empire-inspired sort of nation in Lord of the Rings. Unfortunately, the troops in the mod are kind of lacking, which is why I've never really been drawn to Dorwinion.

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    • Tharaerel wrote:
      ALL THE SERVANTS OF DARKNESS SHALL MEET THEIR END UNDER THE BLADE OF MY PEOPLE!

      SwordGondolinTharaerel Faelgallon Pedo mellon a minnoRingil

      Hmmmm... is this a threat I hear? Would you count me as a servant of darkness? I really don't serve Mordor... the only thing I like there is #1) Black Uruks and Black Uruk weapons look AMAZING. And #2) no annoying Gondor invasions. 

      Harad is technically an "evil" people, but many rejoiced when Sauron died, and not all supported him. I don't really like Mordor overall, I think that they are a very bully-ish and pushy faction, and in the books, the orcs were jawing off to the uruks who could rek the orcs in four seconds.

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    • That is not a threat. I was just joking.:P

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    • Okay:) 

      Anyways, on to my next thing:

      Elves: 

      Basically, all elves are amazing, both in speed, power, hiring, alignment, and availability.

      (Although, the travelling traders can be sort of **(BAD WORDS)** Sometimes. I suggest either Lindon or Lothlorien in terms of availability. (Also, lothlorien has certain things called Miruvor and Galadhrim cloak) and those are amAZING. Rivendell, is just simply amazing due to the lore behind it, and the extreme power and armor those elves weild. 

      Wood elves... I cannot say. Personally, I feel they are kind of intimidating, and I don't really like them too much, and they don't have anything to offer except the scout cloaks. (and again, I prefer a Galadhrim cloak, and if you need speed THAT bad, go to Fangorn. Its closer.)

      Dorwinion: not exactly the best faction in fighting... but amzing for spending time, roleplaying, anything. It is like the Rome of Middle-earth! Their wine is amazing as well! (However, Dorwinion isn't safe. Gundabad still spawns there naturally at night) (or another type of orc, Im not sure.)

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    • My second favorite faction to be. (first being Harad).

      Angmar and Rhudaur. Angmar- the orc force. A ton of easy, cheap, expendable snagae. A stronger force of orcs, powerful armor, (and the swords look AWESOME) and the ultimate force of trolls for backup! Rhudaur: nice loot, human faction. Love them a lot! Good, tall houses, fireplace inside. Nice chieftain who can lend out awesome looking Berserker-looking type guys! (I know Rhudaur doesn't have berserkers. ((sadly)). Dunland does though) 

      Ettenmoors and Angmar are right next to each other, so you can go back and forth easily. Rangers right next to you, so easy alignment to get, and if you are in a pickle, you are surrounded by allies of trolls, orcs, and hillmen who all attack the rangers. ALSO: the misty mountains are right next to you! (With some Gundabad orcs if you are interested. Personally, I hate them.) But what I DO like is the Mithril mined from the Misties! You can turn them into nuggets, and sell them to a very high price to the dwarves in the iron hills and the blue mountains for Dwarf Tonic! (Im into roleplay, so I don't really do mithril armor... 

      Also, you are friends with Mordor and Gundabad, along with the other orc factions. (You can hire a better version of trolls in Mordor ((olog-hai)) but personally, I like the cute, normal trolls and mountain trolls more. :)

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    • I love elves because I love the beaty of their language. By the way, I am studing Black Speech now, so maybe I will join the leagues of Orcs later.

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    • Mmmmmm... I don't really know why one would really JOIN the orcs and live as one among them... (Unless you're talking about Angmar or DOl Guldur. Those places look amazing, (also their equipment is some of the best looking in the mod) and aren't as creepy and monotonous as Mordor, and stronger than Gundabad.)

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    • NEW QUESTION! WOM WOM WOM. *pokemon evolving music playing*

      If you were forced to join either Mordor or Gondor. (Depending on your playstyle: good v.s bad)

      Who would you join? (What part?)

      Mordor: Nurn, Gorgoroth, Nan Ungul, Morgul Vale. 

      Gondor: Blackroot Vale,Lamedon, (actual Gondor place), Dol Amroth, Pelargir, Ithilien, Pinnath Gelin, Lossarnach, Lebennin.

      WHICH ONE WOULD YOU CHOOSE? 

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    • I would choose Gondor: against all of my previous misdeeds against it, and my ultimate dislike against the gondorian king and people, I take the sub-factions of gondor a lot better, even though they still attack me when I am -alignment with Gondor. Mordor just scares me.

      Lossarnach: beautiful armor, and the banner is amazing going to battle with. (Reminds me a lot of Russia and Latvia and how there, the meadows are really pretty...)If you take over a piece of land in Mordor, and put down the banner of Lossarnach, it just looks as completely opposite as you can get from the Mordor banner. White with a flower, v.s black with an evil eye. XD

      Also, the troops sound amazing. "The Axemen of Lossarnach" If I'd be in Mordor, I'd freak.

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    • IronJaw333 wrote:
      I would choose Gondor: against all of my previous misdeeds against it, and my ultimate dislike against the gondorian king and people, I take the sub-factions of gondor a lot better, even though they still attack me when I am -alignment with Gondor. Mordor just scares me.

      Lossarnach: beautiful armor, and the banner is amazing going to battle with. (Reminds me a lot of Russia and Latvia and how there, the meadows are really pretty...)If you take over a piece of land in Mordor, and put down the banner of Lossarnach, it just looks as completely opposite as you can get from the Mordor banner. White with a flower, v.s black with an evil eye. XD

      Also, the troops sound amazing. "The Axemen of Lossarnach" If I'd be in Mordor, I'd freak.

      "The Men are weak,

      Ye needn't to freak.

      Those foolish boors

      Who 'ppose Lugburz

      Will finely die

      before the Eye." :P

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    • Hmmm... No.

      Mordor is dreary and dark, 

      Shadows are deep, and orcses hark,

      Evil place, nobody's a friend,

      In this darkness without an end.

      Trust nobody, and no-one trusts you,

      Sauron screaming for war, like a crancy old shrew.

      Gondor is white, and just as lame, 

      Yet Lossarnach is not the same.

      ITS SICK DUDE!

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    • For Gondor- Lossarnach. I really like their shield and banner of flower, it really reminds me of Russia/Latvia, and is very nice. :) Also, I just like how their armor looks, and they just sound amazing! "The Axemen of Lossarnach".. simply great! (Against all of my hates of Gondor, I would go to Lossarnach, and become a Gondorian. Mordor just freaks me.)

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    • IronJaw333 wrote:
      Mordor just freaks me.

      Ha! I have achieved my purpose. ;P

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    • Well, I am okay with Mordor, as they are kind of Harads....... sponsor. Lets call it that. The spiders are pretty cool (but scary also). Morgul Vale looks the normal-est, but the flowers are a pain in the ***. The one thing I kind of DO like about Mordor though, is Olog-Hai. I hire one, (only one) and call him "Shrek". 

      By the way, if any of you want to, I have a challenge for yall. Take a huge army of whatever/whoever you have, and get your Mordor alignment up somehow. hire a olog-hai, rename him shrek. With this huge army, go to the dead marshes, and find shreks house. Kill shrek with your huge army, and once he's dead, put your olog-hai there on guard mode. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE THE OLOG ANYMORE. HE IS A FREE OLOG NOW. After you have achieved this, you have now achieved the achievement "Out with the old, in with the new" and "Shrek got Dreked by Shrek" (referring to the Olog called shrek). Also, you get shreks loincloth, which is called Shreks loincloth, and when worn on the legs part, will give you a full bar of protection, (equal to mithril) and absorpion, equal to the health of a Olog-hai.

      THIS IS NOT A JOKE.

      By the way, the best way to kill shrek is to get a whole ton of archers, surround shrek in a circle of cobblestone, fill up the circle with lava, and attack shrek. Then AFK for a while, as the lava kills shrek, while at the same time your archers are pincushioning him with arrows. Before he dies, remove the lava (to ensure the loincloth doesn't get destroyed. It is the strongest peice of armor ingame.)

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    • I am bewildered. I am not good at brainstorming. XD

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    • wtf is this legit? Its quite possible bc few have killed Shrek before...

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    • SerCurtis wrote:
      wtf is this legit? Its quite possible bc few have killed Shrek before...

      He was joking.

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    • untrue.

      I killed Shrek with an olog named Shrek on a server before and he dropped the loincloth and I became so OP that they had to close it down

      Well what can I say

      They got shrekkd

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    • I love the olog in place.

      "Olog has no masters. Olog is a FREE TROLL"

      sorry for HP reference. When I watched that part, i found it hilariously stupid. I have never actually looked for Shrek. Perhaps I should try. *mutters to myself for a few minutes, gets myself excited, than says "Be Right Back!"

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    • I know where it is, but I'll never tell you, unless...

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    • Dol Amroth! The Highest blooded men on earth, as they are half Numenorean and half Elven. This resonates in the fact that their NPCs are so stron and they have such an elven like equipment structure. They also still have the fun feel of Numenoreans along with the Elven side of them, and they just really feel like true heirs of Numenor as they should!

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    • Plus some of the best heavy cavalry in the mod lol.

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    • I love the armor... the wings get REALLY weird in a huge group though. 

      They should make horse armor with wings, and there should be a giant Swan which you can tame and ride and fly!

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    • How could they be so hardhearted to get on such fair animals? Even Teleri could not do so...

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    • LordArvedui wrote: Dol Amroth! The Highest blooded men on earth, as they are half Numenorean and half Elven. This resonates in the fact that their NPCs are so stron and they have such an elven like equipment structure. They also still have the fun feel of Numenoreans along with the Elven side of them, and they just really feel like true heirs of Numenor as they should!

      Your my best friend! *sniffs, breaks down*

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    • XD sorry, I just have to

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    • Anyway, Dol Amroth is great. I can see the light of elvenesse shining in their eyes...

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    • They really look Númenórean (sorry if I used the wrong vowel varients for that). More so than other factions, I think.

      And YOUR not my friend anymore, Officer Grammar Checker.

      Anyway, I also really like Rhún as my favorite evil faction. Their golden armor... just wow

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    • Rhúdel? I love their bombing things. Think of it, fire and explosion..."Flash of light, searing pain, then poof! You're nothing more than a pile of ash." It's a shame that Elves don't make such great things. Maybe we should ask Gandalf for them when he is added.

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    • "Gandalf the magic genie, folks, the magic genie! Step right up, step right up, ask him anything you like! You, you elven kid, step up and ask away!" The spokesman gestures franticslly toward a glass box, in which sats an old man, hooded and cloaked in grey.

      "Pardon me, sir, will elves ever get explosives?"

      The figure in grey moves slowly inside his glass box. He points to the young elf. The room around him darkens, and the grey figure looks weary with age. Weary but nonetheless furious. "Servent of Sauron!", he yells. "Away with you, evildoer!", and attempts to cast a spell on the poor young boy. A crowd draws near the spectacle, and wonder at the commotion before them, while the genie wrestles the stick he carries to produce a hex. Upon seeing the uselessness of it, he then hurls the stick at the elf, breaking the glass box to do so. The blow lands, and the kid os knocked unconcious, the final words he hears being "Serves him right! Hmmph!", before waking up in a lothlórian hospital.

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    • Oh come, Gandalf. You also use flash&explosions against goblins. 

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    • I kinda meant to portray one of those automated "genies" in their box, where you pay a dime, then get a ticket with it's answer

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    • There is actually another great Faction which I don't think too many think about...

      Fangorn. I am still really sad that ents aren't hireable, but, well... some things make sense and are meant to be, even if you want different. However, with +500 alignment to Fangorn, you can get a huorn! They are honestly and AMAZING army. They cost 0 coins, and honestly, killing some Gundabad or Uruks isn't that hard. These guys have SERIOUS reach, and have very high health and resistance. Their only weakness is axes, and I HIGHLY doubt that too many people will be using axes. 

      Simply a great faction, also looks really intimidating when you have a forest marching behind you. :D

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    • SWVWC wrote:
      I kinda meant to portray one of those automated "genies" in their box, where you pay a dime, then get a ticket with it's answer

      XD.

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    • IronJaw333 wrote:
      There is actually another great Faction which I don't think too many think about...

      Fangorn. I am still really sad that ents aren't hireable, but, well... some things make sense and are meant to be, even if you want different. However, with +500 alignment to Fangorn, you can get a huorn! They are honestly and AMAZING army. They cost 0 coins, and honestly, killing some Gundabad or Uruks isn't that hard. These guys have SERIOUS reach, and have very high health and resistance. Their only weakness is axes, and I HIGHLY doubt that too many people will be using axes. 

      Simply a great faction, also looks really intimidating when you have a forest marching behind you. :D

      But there are several bugs when you are marching with them. I was suffocated by them once.

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    • I've never been suffocated, but they cause problems if you have to open chests or something and are in a hurry.

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    • Direranger50 wrote:
      I've never been suffocated, but they cause problems if you have to open chests or something and are in a hurry.

      Because they are not intelligent. ;P


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    • Huorns... cheep, expendable, low tier infantry. Free, if you have good allignment but very buggy. Overly large hitboxes for their charecter model, so assisting in a fight is almost impossible. As is using any 'tool' block. (E.G., chests or crafting tables)

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    • WOW!!! HOW DID YOU DO THAT!

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    • Battledroid 56768 wrote:
      I like most mannish factions but Dale and Dorwinion are my favorite good and Harad my favorite evil, maybe its because I'm decent at building them 
      2018-05-13 17.33.00
      2018-04-06 21.46.18

      Wait this is BFME. Top is Angius' Palace and bottom is Vintner. Hmmmm. Someone who played Dorwinion and switched to Harad... All you Comrade_Squealer?

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    • Okay honestly who voted for Rohan up in the vote?! O_o 

      You are doomed my friend. Even hobbits are better. 

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    • IronJaw333 wrote:
      Okay honestly who voted for Rohan up in the vote?! O_o 

      You are doomed my friend. Even hobbits are better. 

      Rohan is cool. I went with Dale

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    • Anyone wants to vote for Orc factions(except Isengard)?

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    • Tharaerel wrote: Anyone wants to vote for Orc factions(except Isengard)?

      SwordGondolinTharaerel Faelgallon Pedo mellon a minnoRingil

      Could not find Dol Amrith specifically, so I went with Utumno. Cool armor, secure location, no risk of attack. Sadly no hiring, no escaping, no getting good with them. The poll said, "whats the best faction?", not "what is your favorite faction"

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    • I wish i could vote 2 times :(    XD

      Anyways, WHOEVER WENT WITH TAURETHRIM/Tauredain :D hello friend!

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    • Yeah I wanted Dol Amroth, so I went Dunedain for the second. The feeling of being a ranger in the wilds, with the ultimate goal of reforging and ancient kingdom? Awesome!

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    • You should talk with my brother! Riptide88888 or something... he LOVES dunedain.

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    • Update: Dol Amroth is added.

      But it is awful that you guys must vote again(and you can choose three factions for three different poll!)...

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    • Totally off topic buuuuut- do Morgul Blades still do wither effect? I am not sure right now.. just went to the page and there is a lot of drama in the comment section about it... (Wither makes so much sense on that sword, its beautiful) 

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    • What? Is there wither effect or no?

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      1. makeHaradGreatAgain
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    • 74.114.76.28 wrote:
      #makeHaradGreatAgain

      How?

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    • In five simple steps.

      1. 1) Make harandor part of actual Harad. It "won" and Harandor would become populated with normal camps and buildings of Haradrim. No more gondorians or rangers of Ithilien except in invasions
      1. 2) Give all Haradrim gear and soldiers/NPCs +1 heart, damage, and x2 durability.
      1. 3) Make the Red Mountain dwarves, and have them be very close friends with haradrim tribes, and therefore giving the Haradrim tribes another "army" of cool red dwarves!
      1. 4) Anyone in the Harad desert with negative alignment with Harad will get 10 damage at every sun-damage spot, (five hearts in all) making travel across the desert impossible.
      1. 5) When Umbar comes, give them ships so that they could sail up and down and everywhere along the coasts, and Harad/Umbar invasions could occur in any place in Middle-earth next to the sea, including even the Shire, Forodwaith, and Angmar if needed. 

      These are just jokes, please do not take it seriously XD

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    • IronJaw333 wrote:
      In five simple steps.
      1. 1) Make harandor part of actual Harad. It "won" and Harandor would become populated with normal camps and buildings of Haradrim. No more gondorians or rangers of Ithilien except in invasions
      1. 2) Give all Haradrim gear and soldiers/NPCs +1 heart, damage, and x2 durability.
      1. 3) Make the Red Mountain dwarves, and have them be very close friends with haradrim tribes, and therefore giving the Haradrim tribes another "army" of cool red dwarves!
      1. 4) Anyone in the Harad desert with negative alignment with Harad will get 10 damage at every sun-damage spot, (five hearts in all) making travel across the desert impossible.
      1. 5) When Umbar comes, give them ships so that they could sail up and down and everywhere along the coasts, and Harad/Umbar invasions could occur in any place in Middle-earth next to the sea, including even the Shire, Forodwaith, and Angmar if needed. 

      These are just jokes, please do not take it seriously XD

      What if I unironically want these to be in the mod?

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    • Tbh making Harad great “again” is the goal of Beta 34...

      High Elven EquipmentXerped The Antisocial(Don't click this)UmbaricEquipment

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    • Lol...

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    • I do want ships. Imagine battles abourd DRIVABLE vessels!😋😋😋

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    • And Elven Ship that could sail to VALINOR.

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    • Xerped wrote:
      Tbh making Harad great “again” is the goal of Beta 34...

      High Elven EquipmentXerped The Antisocial(Don't click this)UmbaricEquipment

      WHADDYA MEAN?! Harad IS great!

      It never stopped being great! It is only possible to make it greater so REEEEEEEEeeeEE!

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    • What I meant is that Harad has never been as great as it will be after Beta 34.

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    • Imagine sailing to numenor where you in a Corvette! NO LONGER A PUNY PINTO BABY!

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    • Btw, I meant the Corvette class ship, not a cheep sportscar

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    • SWVWC wrote:
      Imagine sailing to numenor where you in a Corvette! NO LONGER A PUNY PINTO BABY!

      "Down down down to Númenor"

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    • Xerped wrote:
      What I meant is that Harad has never been as great as it will be after Beta 34.

      High Elven EquipmentXerped The Antisocial(Don't click this)UmbaricEquipment

      I actually do not like the new Umbar armor... :( 

      It is just Haradrim armor with some grey in it. *sniff*        I think it should be a lot more black+grey and a tiny hint of blue or something...

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    • REd dwarves are the best - CReeperKid354

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    • AH much better

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    • Yep. :) I believe that the red dwarven armor is going to be recolored blue dwarven armor.

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    • I am watching the FIFA World Cup

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    • wut?

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    • IronJaw333 wrote:
      wut?

      What on earth are you going "wut" about? Do you not  know what the FIFA World Cup is?


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    • I don't know what it is & really don't care. But, if I had to hazard a guess, it's soccer, isn't it?

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    • Drac0.S01.WV wrote:
      I don't know what it is & really don't care. But, if I had to hazard a guess, it's soccer, isn't it?

      Alas! XD

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    • I am cringing right now.

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    • Soccer? Eeew

      Jk, jk. Not my favorite sport though.

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    • I like watching the players roll around moaning with “pain” and then get up and start playing again if the other guy doesn’t get a foul.

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    • ElenionoftheFirmament wrote:
      Soccer? Eeew

      Jk, jk. Not my favorite sport though.

      Soccer is not my favorite sport, either. Anyway I don't mind watching it if there isn't anything else to watch.

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    • wow dafuq this thread is so long...

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    • Indeed.

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    • shiet my Dorwinion empire just fell I like Northern Dunedain more now

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    • XD     

      Dunedain isn't very good though. In my singleplayer world, I took over all of Ithilien and the Angle, and turned it into another part of Harad.

      FOR HARAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADD!!!

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    • Rhudel for sure. Our golden horde shall destroy this gondorian scum.

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    • Together brother, we will conquer Middle-earth for our own, and then we will betray Sauron, kill him, and rule Middle-earth together!!! (Dibs on all of Harad)

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    • Really? Over my dead body! Elves shall not just watch you two robbing our land! 

      Arise now, arise, Riders of Tharaerel! Dire deeds awake: dark is it eastward. Let horse be prepared, horn be sounded! Forth Eledhrim!

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    • THE SWAN KNIGHTS OF DOL AMROTH WILL NOT ALLOW THIS! We may be few in numbers but we are brave of heart and the skill of a thousand of you desert wanderers and gold plated pirates! We will take on your hordes!

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    • Even our less advanced brethren The Wainriders and The Balchoth messed up gondor AND rhovanion pretty good and gondor was stronger then. What do you think a declining kingdom and a few scattered elves would do against Thousands of gold and bronze plated warriors?

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    • The blood of Númenor Coarses through our veins. You cannot defeat us! Your numbers do not match our skill! Let the arrows fly! Our catapults will answer! Let your infantry come! Our cavalry will flatten them long before they breach our cities! Let your battering ram drum on our doors! Our gates will hold! For we are Dol Amroth! Greatest Province of GONDOR!

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    • SWVWC wrote:
      The blood of Númenor Coarses through our veins. You cannot defeat us! Your numbers do not match our skill! Let the arrows fly! Our catapults will answer! Let your infantry come! Our cavalry will flatten them long before they breach our cities! Let your battering ram drum on our doors! Our gates will hold! For we are Dol Amroth! Greatest Province of GONDOR!

      All of your numenorian blood has been lost for thousands of years. You are just like us, except the fact that you shall never reach your former glory while we shall grow into a vast empire beyond even your former selves. And also, we have horse archers, firepots AND khamuls fire so we can burn through your puny walls and shoot down your cavalry from afar in a hail of arrows and fire.

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    • At least, Valar and Eru the Almighty are standing by my side.

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    • FutureFox wrote:
      Even our less advanced brethren The Wainriders and The Balchoth messed up gondor AND rhovanion pretty good and gondor was stronger then. What do you think a declining kingdom and a few scattered elves would do against Thousands of gold and bronze plated warriors?

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      We are not scattered! Do you not see that we have been re-allied? We have Avari! Their number is greater than you think! All the people who stand against Darkness will ally with us! 

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    • Tharaerel wrote:
      FutureFox wrote:
      Even our less advanced brethren The Wainriders and The Balchoth messed up gondor AND rhovanion pretty good and gondor was stronger then. What do you think a declining kingdom and a few scattered elves would do against Thousands of gold and bronze plated warriors?

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      We are not scattered! Do you not see that we have been re-allied? We have Avari! Their number is greater than you think! All the people who stand against Darkness will ally with us! 

      Oh, If we are bringing friends then we have mordor, gundabad, angmar, haradrim both far and near, and dol guldur.

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    • m8, Gondor has something you ALL LACK. 













      PLOT ARMOR IN THE MOST INTENSE FORM

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    • At least my team will win fashion contests... I mean LOOK AT THEM.

      AND THEY HAVE SKILL TO MATCH! WE WILL KILL YOU WHILE LOOKING FANCY

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    • FutureFox wrote:
      Tharaerel wrote:
      FutureFox wrote:
      Even our less advanced brethren The Wainriders and The Balchoth messed up gondor AND rhovanion pretty good and gondor was stronger then. What do you think a declining kingdom and a few scattered elves would do against Thousands of gold and bronze plated warriors?

      Flag of The USO Leader of Pandoxia Send fox mail

      We are not scattered! Do you not see that we have been re-allied? We have Avari! Their number is greater than you think! All the people who stand against Darkness will ally with us! 
      Oh, If we are bringing friends then we have mordor, gundabad, angmar, haradrim both far and near, and dol guldur.

      And if we are bringing ALL friends then we have Valar, Maia and ILÚVATAR.

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    • This thread:


      Start: I like --- Faction of these reasons: ---, ---, ---...

      Now: I KILL YOU ALLLLLLLL!!!


      Don't you just love how all threads degenerate?

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    • Drac0.S01.WV wrote: This thread:


      Start: I like --- Faction of these reasons: ---, ---, ---...

      Now: I KILL YOU ALLLLLLLL!!!


      Don't you just love how all threads degenerate?


      I like seeing it evolve.

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    • For the good factions I like Rohan and the high-elves, for the evil factions I like agmar and harad, THEY LOOK SO COOL!!!

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    • I like the rangers of the north as they suit my play style but i really like durins folk as they have great armour and weapons and nice looking biomes

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    • For the second time here, after an influx of random events: 

      DORWINION STRONK

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    • Gosh this is quite the necropost.



      But ofc, everyone knows that Dunland is superior to all else

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    • My favorite factions are two that have not even been added yet. My favorite canon faction is the Variags of Khand (which is probably because my favorite biome is Khand, which also has yet to be added). My favorite non-canon faction is the Cerinrim, because they are so bloodthirsty and war-crazed. Once the mound-host is added, nothing will stop me from making a literal bloodbath of the other Far Haradrim. Mwahahahahaha!

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    • NotEvilAtAll wrote: Gosh this is quite the necropost.



      But ofc, everyone knows that Dunland is superior to all else

      I love dunland, but they don't have ANY blacksmiths, or their own real weapon, which makes it quite hard to play as them.

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    • SWVWC wrote:

      NotEvilAtAll wrote: Gosh this is quite the necropost.



      But ofc, everyone knows that Dunland is superior to all else

      I love dunland, but they don't have ANY blacksmiths, or their own real weapon, which makes it quite hard to play as them.

      I love the idea of Dunland. I don't really like how it's done in the mod. There's little variety in weapons or armor, they have like, four auto-gen structures, and they're kinda just easy to ignore.

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    • for me the best faction are Dale, Hight_elven and isengard !!

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    • Heh. 

      I would be worried about necro posting, but alrighty then, LET IT BE KNOWN THAT I WAS NOT THE FIRST.

      Anyways: if we are talking about such MIGHTY foes, let's not forget that we then will have fricking MORGOTH if you have Eru Iluvatar, and while yes he will inevetably lose, he WILL however give US the strength to wipe out you goody-two-shoes before that day happens.

      And your Valar will stand and watch as you BURN, for they have forsaken all mortals, and will not intervene in our battles!

      Harad continues to prsoper! IN SINGLEPLAYER! Hah!

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    • Necro- Just Kidding! Anyways.

      I like Mordor as they are super powerful as they are ruled by sauron but I hate going outside my fortresses as they always call you a worm and want you dead. I only like black uruks as they are nice.

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    • Ok I don't get why no one likes blue mountains ok the architecture isn't good but it has good loot good army(cheap too) easy to get too. Near the best ore in the game(misty mountains) like what is there not to love huh 

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