Changes: What not to Suggest

Latest revision as of 20:04, 31 August 2020

This is a list of features you should not suggest to be added to the mod, as such, without being very specific and concrete about how to implement them in an original and non-obvious manner.

Note that this list is not comprehensive, read the FAQ for guidance. Anything that is mentioned on the Planned Features page can be considered a part of this list.

As indicated in the first sentence, we do wish to stress that Mevans and the mod team do appreciate original and concrete notions on how to implement many of the features listed below. So, do not interpret this list as 'A list of things not to suggest anything about, anytime, at all.'. But, beware that your notions must be original and not 'very obvious'. Any obvious and unoriginal suggestion simply leads to waste of peoples effort and time and clutters the forums. In general, we recommend to focus on providing improvement suggestions on already existing features. This especially holds for the features mentioned on the Planned Features list, unless the mod team explicitly indicates they appreciate the input of ideas on planned features they are working on, which is generally announced on the Facebook page.

The List

Notice

Update 36 was the final update to the Legacy 1.7.10 version of the mod. All future updates will be for the Renewed 1.15 version of the mod.

Do not bother suggesting:

New features for the Legacy version of the mod: Support for the Legacy version is restricted to bug fixes.
New features for the Renewed version that are already in the Legacy version: Pretty much all of these are going to be added.
New features for the Renewed version that are not in the Legacy version: New features won't be added to the Renewed version in any meaningful numbers until it's brought up to par with the Legacy version.
Vanilla features added in 1.15: Features added to vanilla between 1.7.10 and 1.15 will be added to the mod as appropriate.

Do suggest:

When Mevans requests player feedback on a particular issue.
- A historic example of this was: should the textures of vertical slabs be rotated or not?
Modifications to features already present in the Legacy version: Don't like the texture of pine leaves? Think the architecture of the Gondor Watchfort could be improved? Is Brewing not intuitive to you? Suggestions like these are all valid, provided that you provide specific and concrete examples of how they should be implemented.

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-This is a list of what not to suggest on the wiki. We have heard these already and some of them will come in the far, far future. Thank you.
+'''This is a list of features you should not suggest to be added to the mod, as such, without being very specific and concrete about how to implement them in an original and non-obvious manner.'''
-Note that this list is not comprehensive, read the [[FAQ]] for guidance. But generally, '''if something exists in LOTR, it will be added''' and therefore you are wasting your time and our time suggesting it.
+Note that this list is not comprehensive, read the [[FAQ]] for guidance. Anything that is mentioned on the [[Planned Features]] page can be considered a part of this list.
+As indicated in the first sentence, we do wish to stress that Mevans and the mod team do appreciate original and concrete notions on how to implement many of the features listed below. So, do not interpret this list as 'A list of things not to suggest anything about, anytime, at all.'. But, beware that your notions must be original and not 'very obvious'. Any obvious and unoriginal suggestion simply leads to waste of peoples effort and time and clutters the forums. In general, we recommend to focus on providing improvement suggestions on already existing features. This especially holds for the features mentioned on the [[Planned Features]] list, unless the mod team explicitly indicates they appreciate the input of ideas on planned features they are working on, which is generally announced on the [https://www.facebook.com/LOTRMCFacebook Facebook] page.
+==The List==
+===Notice===
+Update 36 was the final update to the [[Lord of the Rings Mod|Legacy 1.7.10 version]] of the mod. All future updates will be for the [[Lord of the Rings Mod Renewed|Renewed 1.15 version]] of the mod.
+===Do not bother suggesting:===
+*New features for the Legacy version of the mod: Support for the Legacy version is restricted to bug fixes.
+*New features for the Renewed version that are already in the Legacy version: Pretty much all of these are going to be added.
+*New features for the Renewed version that are ''not'' in the Legacy version: New features won't be added to the Renewed version in any meaningful numbers until it's brought up to par with the Legacy version.
+*Vanilla features added in 1.15: Features added to vanilla between 1.7.10 and 1.15 will be added to the mod as appropriate.
+===Do suggest:===
+*When [[Mevans]] requests player feedback on a particular issue.
+**A historic example of this was: should the textures of vertical slabs be rotated or not?
+*Modifications to features ''already present'' in the Legacy version: Don't like the texture of [[Pine Tree|pine leaves]]? Think the architecture of the [[Gondor Watchfort]] could be improved? Is [[Brewing]] not intuitive to you? Suggestions like these are all valid, provided that you provide specific and concrete examples of how they should be implemented.
+<!-- Old list. It's very outdated now that the 1.7.10 version is no longer being developed.
 == The List ==
-* '''Anything actually mentioned in LOTR''', including '''all races, factions, characters, regions, structures, weapons, items, '''as these are all planned already and have been suggested far too many times before.
+* '''Anything actually mentioned in Tolkien's writings on Middle Earth that would still be present in the Third Age''', including '''all races, factions, characters, regions, structures, weapons, food and non-food items, animals and plants''' as these are likely planned already and have been suggested far too many times before.
+* Anything on the [[FAQ]].
-* Major quests: These are for the Far Future.
+* Anything that can't be added right now and requires other already planned features.
-* Minas Tirith and other cities/structures: These are planned but will not happen yet.
-* Mumakil: These are planned and may even be in the next update.
+* Major quests: They are planned, and will be added in the far future.
+* Minas Tirith and other cities/structures: These are planned, but coding them will require a lot of time, so they will be added once the majority of the work on factions, NPCs and biomes is done.
-* Dragons: These are extremely hard to code and will not happen for a long while.
+* Mûmakil: These are planned.
+* Dragons: These would be extremely hard to code and will not be added for a long while, if at all.
 * Smaller biomes: Read the [[FAQ]]!
-* Dwarves of Moria: These will NOT come. Ever.
+* Dwarves of Moria: No. Just no. This is the Third Age, people. There are zero Moria Dwarves at this time.
+* Misty Mountain Goblins: Goblins will eventually be added as a subfaction of Orcs.
-* Easterlings: These will come soon. Be patient.
+* More factions in Rhûn: These are planned.
-* Biomes for structures like Moria, Erebor, and Dale: These will also NOT happen.
+* Healers: They are unlikely to come.
-* Misty Mountain Goblins: Goblins are the same as Orcs. However, they may be eventually added.
+* Black Númenórians and their ships: Planned.
-Suggesting these items may result in a ban.
+* Valinor: This <u>may</u> be added in the far future, but it's by no means guaranteed.
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+* A crafting recipe for [[Lembas]]. This is not planned.
+* Villages for any faction. These are planned and already implemented for some factions.
+* This mod's timeline begins on Bilbo Baggins' birthday party. Please do not suggest anything to do with any other ages. <u>The Hobbit</u> has already happened. Any character that died during that story will not be added.
+* Easter Eggs - Easter eggs are a creation from the whim of the programmer. Also, suggesting an easter egg would make them really easy to find.
+* Any animal, plant or food item that is not specifically mentioned in lore but that can be considered a possible addition because it is known to mankind on earth and it does not contradict lore.
+* Any suggestion relating to the 'how' of implementing features mentioned in the [[Planned Features|Planned Features list]] and elsewhere on this page that is rather obvious.
+* We recommend to await implementation of an anticipated feature before providing suggestions on how to improve the way it was implemented by the mod team.
+Some of these things are coming. Be patient.
+Suggesting these items, as such, may result in a ban.
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